They're claiming it is. Saying that the Obama healthcare reform plan will reduce the national debt, stimulate the economy, save the auto industry, and save the planet from global warming.Vince wrote:It's never been about saving money.
The First Obama Term
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Wow. Arlen Specter made a complete ass of himself at some meeting in Pennsylvania yesterday. The dude that provoked him appears to be insane, going on about how god is going to judge him or something.
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Yeah, sorry to get you off your fucking throne, your majesty.
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SPECTER: I’m encouraging constitutional rights. I’m encouraging constitutional rights by coming to Lebanon to talk to my constituents. I could be somewhere else. I don’t get any extra pay — I don’t have any requirement to be here.
Yeah, sorry to get you off your fucking throne, your majesty.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
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I'm sure they could bullshit some reason, probably involving the interstate commerce clause.thibodeaux wrote:Constitution, eh? Which part of the Constitution empowers Congress to "reform health care."
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Wow. Just, wow. Clearly he does not know for whom he works. Here's hoping his constituents let him know.
If they were proposing this as "We want everyone covered, so we're doing it, but it's gonna cost us a lot of $," I don't think there'd be half the anger. I also think it'd be less popular. But, for me at least, the anger comes from the fact that they're either 1) lying to us about costs or b) too dumb to know better.
If they were proposing this as "We want everyone covered, so we're doing it, but it's gonna cost us a lot of $," I don't think there'd be half the anger. I also think it'd be less popular. But, for me at least, the anger comes from the fact that they're either 1) lying to us about costs or b) too dumb to know better.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Probably fake, but amusing in a schadenfreude way... a letter from a grandfather to his granddaughter why he can no longer support her financially...
http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerki....-ashley
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http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerki....-ashley
John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He’s a life-long Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his way, John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.
John has a granddaughter. Ashley is a recent college grad. She drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and loves to go out to nightclub s and restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard for Barak Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all other Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on how the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is taking over.
Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse. Like she has done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for some financial help. Here is his reply:
Sweetheart,
I received your request for assistance.
Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I’m sympathetic to your financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the election of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a bold new economic plan of our own…”The Ashley Economic Empowerment Plan.” Let me explain.
Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning tax payers. We have lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the fancier things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc. We have worked hard and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed. Your president is raising our personal and business taxes significantly.. He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people. Do you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must cut back on many business and personal expenses.
You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for more than 23 years? The one who always gave you candy when came over to visit? I had to let her go last week. I can’t afford to pay her salary and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having employees. Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and will lose even more income to the Wal-Mart.
I’m also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no longer be working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this morning. He already knows about it and he’s upset because he will have to give up skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar bears.
That’s just the business side of things. Some personal economic effects of Obama’s new taxation policies include none other than you.
You know very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, clothing, gifts, etc., etc. But by your vote, you have chosen to help others — not at your expense — but at our expense.
If you need money now sweetheart, I recommend you call 202-456-1111.
That is the direct phone number for the White House. You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican. You said Mr. Obama is going to be the People’s President, and is going to help every American live a better life. Based on everything you’ve told me, along with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I’m sure Mr. Obama will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank account. Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago.
Perhaps you can now understand what I’ve been saying all my life:
those who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation as a whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for themselves. What Obama supporters don’t seem to realize is all of the money he is redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called “less fortunate”) comes from tax-paying families.
Remember how you told me, “Only the richest of the rich will be affected”? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. On paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far from it.
As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to carry more of the burden so all of America can prosper. You understand what that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people results in them having less money; less money for everything, including granddaughters.
I’m sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry. The free lunches are over. I have no money to give you now.
So, congratulations on your choice for “change.” For future reference, I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and cash you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 (or 8 ) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly been the gift of our hearts.
Remember, we love you dearly….but from now on you’ll need to call the number mentioned above.. Your “Savior” has the money we would have given to you. Just try and get it from him.
Good luck, sweetheart.
Love,
Grandpa.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Move along, nothing to see here. Revised 10-year deficit forecast -- up @ $2 trillion, for a total of $9 trillion.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
The Obama administration’s Office of Management and Budget raised its 10-year tally of deficits expected through 2019 to $9.05 trillion, nearly $2 trillion more than it projected in February. That would represent 5.1 percent of the economy’s estimated gross domestic product for the decade, a higher level than is generally considered healthy.
The Congressional Budget Office, which unlike the administration did not account for the president’s policy proposals in its latest report, increased its projection of deficits over the next decade. Absent any changes in law, it said the deficit would rise to $7.1 trillion, from $4.4 trillion in March.
The C.B.O. did analyze the president’s budget in June and concluded his proposed tax cuts and spending would push deficits through 2019 above $9 trillion. While the administration now agrees with that figure, technical data in the new C.B.O. report suggests that if it were to review the Obama budget now, it would project deficits through 2019 above $10 trillion, analysts speculated.
So Obama's policies will cost $3 TRILLION more in debt according to the CBO.
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It's not me, it's someone else.
Another reason to like Roth IRAs and 401(k)s.Malcolm wrote:Move along, nothing to see here. Revised 10-year deficit forecast -- up @ $2 trillion, for a total of $9 trillion.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Obama's "green jobs" adviser: Republicans are "assholes."
http://www.foxnews.com/politic....ssholes
http://www.foxnews.com/politic....ssholes
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
"I apologize for the offensive words I chose to use during that speech," Jones said in a written statement to Politico. "They do not reflect the views of this administration, which has made every effort to work in a bipartisan fashion...
First off, you're higher than Tommy Chong in a B-2 stealth bomber w\ a pound of hash.
He made the remarks ... after a woman ... asked him why President Obama and congressional Democrats were having trouble moving legislation -- even though Republicans, with a smaller majority, didn't have as much trouble earlier in the Bush administration.
"Well, the answer to that is, they're assholes," Jones said, to uproarious laughter.
I'm not faulting anyone for calling someone else an asshole, but this isn't politically intelligent.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Same guy thinks Bush was behind 9/11.GORDON wrote:Obama's "green jobs" adviser: Republicans are "assholes."
http://www.foxnews.com/politic....ssholes
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs....e_blogs
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I have a feeling he might be "stepping down" soon. At the very least, I doubt we'll see him giving interviews anymore.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Same guy thinks Bush hates black people.GORDON wrote:Same guy thinks Bush was behind 9/11.GORDON wrote:Obama's "green jobs" adviser: Republicans are "assholes."
http://www.foxnews.com/politic....ssholes
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs....e_blogs
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobas....xt=true
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Jones quickly involved others in his presentation by lobbing questions back at his audience; each raised hand signaled another person won over. "Is there anyone here who has a recurring dream that there's something you're supposed to be doing?" he asked. "You look at your journal and the same idea keeps coming back? Is there anyone here who ever swallowed hard and took a stand for something that you knew was unpopular? Has anybody in this room ever really, really screwed something up, and then tried again? Well, I would say if you answered yes to any of those questions, you are a social entrepreneur."
The activists hung on Jones' words, captivated by the potential that he described within each of them. He finished with an exhortation worthy of a revival: "Our species is struggling to live through you, through that dream, through that journal entry that keeps recurring," he said, his voice quivering with passion. "I beg you, I beg you, embrace that rule-breaking, life-affirming, risk-taking you that the world needs so desperately right now."
Wow.
I wonder if Morpheus is pissed that this asshole is doing his routine.
It would have been funny if someone had yelled "Thanks, but I'll take the blue pill!"
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
MSM is not interested.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion....02.html
edit - foxnews.com has it on the front page, but everyone knows how crazy they are... amirite?
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion....02.html
Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the New York Times: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy in the Washington Post: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on NBC Nightly News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on ABC World News: 0.
Total words about the Van Jones controversy on CBS Evening News: 0.
edit - foxnews.com has it on the front page, but everyone knows how crazy they are... amirite?
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."