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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:51 pm
by TPRJones
"We sought the waiver so that we could continue to provide them with the coverage they need and deserve," Schroder added.
The implication being that the coverage required by the law that was waived is more than they deserve?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:17 pm
by GORDON
Obamacare declared unconstitutional in Virginia. Next step is the Supreme Court. Keeping my fingers crossed, but not betting the farm. Some of those justices and I greatly disagree with at times in interpreting the Constitution.
http://online.wsj.com/article....30.html
RICHMOND, Va.—A federal court ruled Monday that a key part of the health-care overhaul violates the Constitution, dealing the first legal setback to the Obama administration's signature legislative accomplishment.
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The lawsuit, brought by Virginia Republican Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, is the first court ruling against the law since President Barack Obama signed it in March. More than 20 federal lawsuits have been filed against the overhaul, and judges in two of those cases ruled in favor of the Obama administration. The battle is expected to end up at the Supreme Court, though probably not until the 2011-12 term at the earliest.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:10 pm
by GORDON
CNN says cutting the Obamacare health care spending is going to increase the deficit.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/06/health.care/index.html?hpt=T2
I just keep hearing Unk say, "Stop pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining."
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:32 am
by thibodeaux
The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.
So, in a way, it's true.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:59 am
by unkbill
thibodeaux wrote:The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.
So, in a way, it's true.
What ever happened to a balanced budget law or amendment. When politicians were harping about it I actually thought. "Hey that would be a great thing to happen" and actually felt good about something my government was going to do.
How naive of me to think they would do the right thing.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:51 am
by GORDON
Welp, the new Congress was just seated a couple days ago, and they have been making big promises to get spending under control. Let's see what happens.
SOMETHING has to be done, hopefully sooner than later. It's too late to say they're ahead of the curve, but it isn't too late for it to be a complete meltdown. But that point is close.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:42 am
by TheCatt
unkbill wrote:thibodeaux wrote:The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.
So, in a way, it's true.
What ever happened to a balanced budget law or amendment. When politicians were harping about it I actually thought. "Hey that would be a great thing to happen" and actually felt good about something my government was going to do.
How naive of me to think they would do the right thing.
They did that already.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:03 am
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Welp, the new Congress was just seated a couple days ago, and they have been making big promises to get spending under control. Let's see what happens.
SOMETHING has to be done, hopefully sooner than later. It's too late to say they're ahead of the curve, but it isn't too late for it to be a complete meltdown. But that point is close.
The country needs invest in something with a proven return ratio.
Cocaine.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:47 am
by unkbill
GORDON wrote:Welp, the new Congress was just seated a couple days ago, and they have been making big promises to get spending under control. Let's see what happens.
SOMETHING has to be done, hopefully sooner than later. It's too late to say they're ahead of the curve, but it isn't too late for it to be a complete meltdown. But that point is close.
Thought about it. I'm older why should I give a damn.
Guess the reason it does bother me is that my nieces and nephews(Yourchild) are going to have do pay for the bullshit that was going on as I grew old. Not there damned fault.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:49 am
by unkbill
TheCatt wrote:unkbill wrote:thibodeaux wrote:The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.
So, in a way, it's true.
What ever happened to a balanced budget law or amendment. When politicians were harping about it I actually thought. "Hey that would be a great thing to happen" and actually felt good about something my government was going to do.
How naive of me to think they would do the right thing.
They
did that
already.
Guess it was like the under cooked spaghetti noodle. Didn't stick to the wall it was thrown at.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:10 pm
by GORDON
Another federal judge struck down Obamacare.
http://www.foxnews.com/politic....-debate
A U.S. district judge on Monday threw out the nation's health care law, declaring it unconstitutional because it violates the Commerce Clause and surely reviving a feud among competing philosophies about the role of government.
Judge Roger Vinson, in Pensacola, Fla., ruled that as a result of the unconstitutionality of the "individual mandate" that requires people to buy insurance, the entire law must be declared void.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic....eKpHrn1
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:06 pm
by Malcolm
The recent record of the Supreme Court doesn't encourage me.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:09 pm
by GORDON
Now certainly they would not legislate from the bench. That would violate the fundamental spirit of checks and balances ingrained in our system.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:04 pm
by DoctorChaos
GORDON wrote:Now certainly they would not legislate from the bench. That would violate the fundamental spirit of checks and balances ingrained in our system.
Dammit, now I have to buy another sarcasm meter!
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:20 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Now certainly they would not legislate from the bench. That would violate the fundamental spirit of checks and balances ingrained in our system.
The fundamental spirit's been getting violated like a kid at Michael Jackson's Neverland Day Care Centre for quite some time.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:48 pm
by GORDON
Lots of businesses in Nancy Pelosi's district are getting Obamacare waivers so they don't go out of business implementing it. This is significant since she was the 2nd loudest proponent of Obamacare.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011....-pardon
I heard a good question today regarding companies that CAN'T get waivers. They now are less viable than their competitors that do get waivers.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:04 pm
by TPRJones
Interesting to note that if Obamacare forces nursing homes and at-home care companies to provide insurance to their workers, the costs of elderly care will skyrocket so much that many old folks won't be able to afford it. But of course the government will have to provide it, possibly by raising medicare taxes. It's a nice little government-induced inflationary loop.
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:07 pm
by TPRJones
The basic problem behind all of this is:
1) Advanced medical care is expensive and a scare resource
2) Our society states that everyone should have access to all the most advanced medical care because "all human life is sacred"
Regular old-timey medicine is not the problem. It's the space-age stuff. It's going to completely kill our economy if we keep trying to vote that chicken into everyone's pot.
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:31 pm
by GORDON
CDC: Zombie Preparedness.
http://www.foxnews.com/health....estnews
I like this guy.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:41 pm
by TPRJones
Nice! Glad to see someone at the CDC has a sense of humor. And maybe they'll actually convince a few people to have scram bags.