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Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:05 pm
by GORDON
Doesn't the UN have assets and manpower?
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:16 pm
by TheCatt
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:05 pm
by TheCatt
Failures were bipartisan and long running in this opinion piece.
Also, I will fault the rest of the world who did not help.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:56 pm
by TheCatt
Republicans covering tracks
In the wake of the Taliban’s recent capture of Kabul, Afghanistan’s capital, it looks like the Republican Party is quietly scrubbing traces of the former president’s deals with the militant Islamist group.
The GOP has pulled a webpage praising Donald Trump over his administration’s “historic peace agreement with the Taliban.” The page, which has been archived here, was first instated in the midst of last year’s presidential election.
“Trump has continued to take the lead in peace talks as he signed a historic peace agreement with the Taliban in Afghanistan, which would end America’s longest war,” the now-deleted page read. It also noted that while the now ex-president has “championed peace,” Joe Biden had pushed “endless wars.” Elsewhere on the page, the GOP noted that Trump had “taken action to defeat ISIS and eliminate dangerous leaders.”
It’s worth noting here that Abdul Ghani Baradar, who co-founded the Taliban in Afghanistan and went on to become the organization’s top-ranking political chief, was released from Pakistani jail at the U.S.’s request while Trump was in office.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:47 pm
by Leisher
There's simply no way this has gone on through four presidents to not have been bungled by both parties, and yes, the UN and other countries' complete inaction might not make them as guilty, but it certainly doesn't make them innocent.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:54 pm
by GORDON
It'll all be fine for a decade, or so.
Most of the media will absolve the current administration of blame, and stop talking about it all together in a couple weeks. The atrocities about to be committed by the Taliban on the people in that country... especially the revenge stuff.... won't be reported much, in the USA. The Taliban will settle in, and reopen the extremist schools, and when the current 8 year olds are 18 they will be plenty ready to commit some new suicide attacks on the west. No one will remember anyone now saying "this was a clusterfuck, and shouldn't have happened." Every single person will be shocked and claimed no one could have known.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:14 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:54 pm
Most of the media will absolve the current administration of blame, and stop talking about it all together in a couple weeks.
CNN has been shockingly negative towards Biden about this situation.
(Their current full front page headline: "Biden points finger at others for the unfolding crisis")
MSNBC has Biden's balls resting on their chin.
Fox is pretending Trump wouldn't be going through the same thing right now. Fox will definitely not let this die and I assure you we'll be hearing a LOT about it in 2024.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:49 pm
by TheCatt
Republicans pretending to care about people from other countries is a little entertaining.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:43 pm
by Leisher
To be fair, you can say that about both parties.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:09 pm
by GORDON
The democrats have a better image for supposedly caring about people more, which pushes my "hypocrisy" button and makes me dislike them more. They care only about their jobs, and raking in the bribes, just like the republicans.
Give me someone who's honest about being a shithead, over a shithead who denies being a shithead, any day.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:43 pm
by Leisher
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:47 pm
by GORDON
Not even The Onion is going to cover for Biden.
https://www.theonion.com/critics-warn-w ... 1847496343
He should probably go hide at Camp David for a few more days.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:10 pm
by TheCatt
A see a lot of criticism online, but nothing constructive, no other ideas, no plans, no anything.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:36 pm
by GORDON
"Don't pull out yet because they would collapse" is not a thing no one had ever said.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:39 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:36 pm
"Don't pull out yet because they would collapse" is not a thing no one had ever said.
OK, and did they have billions and billions of dollars to keep this going?
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:49 pm
by GORDON
Heh. To circle around to my previous post, "How are we going to pay for this?" is something no one in DC has said for a long time.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:04 pm
by TheCatt
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:19 pm
by Leisher
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:36 am
by Leisher
Last U.S. soldier leaves (even though there are still Americans and Afghan allies trapped there, but who cares about that...), and
the Taliban declares victory.
I mean, I guess it's ok to declare victory even though, literally, nothing you did actually won you anything?
Equipment you see in pictures was permanently disabled.
Meanwhile, the new peaceful rule of the Taliban begins:
Afghan folk singer murdered.
Female Afghan YouTuber murdered.
Afghanistan = VietNam
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:09 am
by GORDON
Saw a pic today of, supposedly, Taliban using Blackhawk helicopters to hang people by the neck.