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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:20 pm
by GORDON
Ha, I wish my C64 still worked. I still think about some of the games I played on that.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:52 pm
by Malcolm
Pick up the emulator & grab the ROMs.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:26 pm
by Vince
GORDON wrote:
Vince wrote:I guess I just don't have the anger over all of this because I have options. I could go with Linux or Apple if MS did something to piss me off enough. But I stick with MS because I know that all the apps I'll want are on that platform.
But if you want a PC for gaming, then no, you don't really have options.
Apple has limited games, but they have them. And there all always consoles.

May be lesser options, but they're options.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:08 pm
by GORDON
I have to disagree with that. There is no alternative to being able to play all the games that are released. Apple has nowhere near the game selection Windows has. It is not an "identical but differentiated" product that can be considered an alternative.



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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:35 pm
by Vince
GORDON wrote:I have to disagree with that. There is no alternative to being able to play all the games that are released. Apple has nowhere near the game selection Windows has. It is not an "identical but differentiated" product that can be considered an alternative.
alright, fine. What do the games coming out have to do with upgrading. And if you say, "because they only write the games for the new OS which means I have to upgrade", then I can only assume you have a stack of 8-track tapes somewhere that you weep over regularly.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:03 pm
by GORDON
Loaded up Quake 2 a while back to try to play through it again, and it wouldn't run on XP. Same with Duke Nukem 3D. And Harpoon II. That's what I can only remember offhand.

Yes, there's DOSBox, but the one time I tried it for 10 minutes I couldn't get it to work.

Darn older games were just too advanced for the new generations of Windows to handle, I guess.

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Come on... your argument is that nobody ever wants to play older games?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:13 pm
by Cakedaddy
The ONLY time I have ever upgraded my OS was to play a new game that required it. It required it because MS make them program in certain things that require the new OS. If they don't, then MS punishes them. Game voice was the reason I install Win98 on my machine. Even though, the night before, it worked fine on Win95.



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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:52 am
by Vince
GORDON wrote:Come on... your argument is that nobody ever wants to play older games?
No, my argument is that old games being played isn't high on anyone's priority list. Not the game makers and thus no MSs. Even among users, they might LIKE to play the old games, but given the choice between the two they choose the new games. Thus they upgrade.

Okay, I'm tired of talking about this. I've just excepted that games have a shelf life and don't really care.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:44 pm
by GORDON
Cool... so stop telling those of us angry about our old games getting obsoleted that we are wrong.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:07 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:I've just excepted that games have a shelf life and don't really care.
Hell, no. I usually play "Wasteland" about once every couple years.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:50 pm
by Leisher
No, my argument is that old games being played isn't high on anyone's priority list. Not the game makers and thus no MSs. Even among users, they might LIKE to play the old games, but given the choice between the two they choose the new games. Thus they upgrade.

Okay, I'm tired of talking about this. I've just excepted that games have a shelf life and don't really care.


Exactly the attitude of Microsoft when designing Vista and that's exactly the problem.

It's, again, also why many companies will not and cannot upgrade to Vista as it breaks many legacy business programs. Lots from companies no longer in business.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:04 pm
by Vince
Leisher wrote:It's, again, also why many companies will not and cannot upgrade to Vista as it breaks many legacy business programs. Lots from companies no longer in business.
Sorry, but if they're using legacy software that they can no longer get support for and they aren't in the process of moving over to different software, then I've got no sympathy for them. No IT director worth his salt would let that situation continue.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:35 am
by TPRJones
Vince wrote:No IT director worth his salt would let that situation continue.
It's mostly a problem at governmental and educational institutions.

This tends to verify your statement.