Dow loses 400 points the day after an historic presidential election, as the jobs outlook worsens and oil continues its slide.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:32 pm
by WSGrundy
The more I think about it the more I think Obamas time in office is going to be like Clintons. People will say they like the man but reject his ideology.
Clinton is still very popular but after trying to raise taxes for the 100,000 new cops, gun legislation, and the whole national health care plan that hillary worked on the democrats lost the control of congress for the first time in 40 years.
I'm looking forward to seeing how 2010 turns out.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:37 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:The stock market is racist
Dow loses 400 points the day after an historic presidential election, as the jobs outlook worsens and oil continues its slide.
As long as someone pays my mortgage for me I'll be happy.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:06 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:The stock market is racist
Dow loses 400 points the day after an historic presidential election, as the jobs outlook worsens and oil continues its slide.
"The Dow Jones drop isn't bad news; Obama just lowered the price of stocks so the little guy has a chance to afford some, too."
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:21 pm
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:Please reign in spending.
Please reign in spending.
Please reign in spending.
I'm sure they will.
Oh wait... I thought that was a monkey flying out of my ass.
They won't.
I was disappointed that Obambi won, but also a little relieved. I wasn't looking forward to trying to rationalize McCain's less than conservative decisions while he was in office for 4 years.
My siser's husband has a dental practice and they've already been hit by the economy. People getting the work they have to have done, but not the work they need. They're already looking at laying off someone at the office if the tax hike goes through. I think Obama's policies (if they're more than BS election promises) are going to make this recession longer and worse than it would be otherwise. Actually, I expect greater lay-offs just on the promises before he is even sworn in.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:38 pm
by TheCatt
Well, in the past nearly 50 years, Democratic administrations have done much better than Republicans in restraining spending, across the board.
So, I'm still cautiously optimistic.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:32 pm
by TPRJones
Perhaps, but has that been true when they also held both houses of Congress?
It's really more about Congress, anyway, after all.
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:44 pm
by TheCatt
They held Congress from like 54 to 94 or something, right? So yeah, it's true.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:23 pm
by TPRJones
The didn't have both houses that whole time, though.
I'll need to do some research.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:40 am
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:They held Congress from like 54 to 94 or something, right? So yeah, it's true.
I think Newt's gang did a lot in that department for Clinton. Back when the Republicans were actually worth a damn.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:40 am
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:They held Congress from like 54 to 94 or something, right? So yeah, it's true.
The house. Not the Senate, too.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:04 pm
by GORDON
"Obama win does not mean the end of racism," Activists say.
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.</span> Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
So that's, what... 4 new government agencies, and a draft? That says "require."
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:43 pm
by TheCatt
When you choose to serve
Um....
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:46 pm
by Leisher
You're both right. It says "choose" and "require".
Either way, this is several new departments of government. More places we need to throw money. Where will all this money come from I wonder...
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:42 pm
by WSGrundy
So you choose to do something and then gives you this list a requirements? Why not just let people help with whatever they want for as much as they want?
What do the volunteers gets out of this. Has to be more then the satisfaction of helping others if they are requiring a certain amount of time.