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The First Trump term.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:10 am
by Vince
He really is the Republican Obama. Obama was blaming Bush for issues he was unable to resolve into his second term. Trump is blaming his opponent for Russia's problems.

I really think this all boils down to Trump's insecurities. He thinks that admitting Russia did something wrong is tantamount to saying that he didn't legitimately win the presidency. This has gone off the rails.

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:20 am
by TheCatt
Vince wrote: He really is the Republican Obama. Obama was blaming Bush for issues he was unable to resolve into his second term. Trump is blaming his opponent for Russia's problems.

I really think this all boils down to Trump's insecurities. He thinks that admitting Russia did something wrong is tantamount to saying that he didn't legitimately win the presidency. This has gone off the rails.
Agree 100%

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:05 pm
by Troy
WH PR today:

"Just tell them yesterday was opposite day"

Trump:

"Cool"

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:37 am
by Vince
He's a freaking child. "I believe our intelligence agencies and meant to say I didn't see any reason to think it WASN'T Russia."

"But it might have been someone else."

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:33 am
by TheCatt
Vince wrote: He's a freaking child. "I believe our intelligence agencies and meant to say I didn't see any reason to think it WASN'T Russia."

"But it might have been someone else."
Right? And him being immature/incompetent is the BEST case scenario.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:46 pm
by Vince
Then the other side goes so exponentially overboard that they undo half the damage he's done to himself. No, this isn't Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or Kristallnacht (surprised/not surprised that the ADL hasn't called anyone on that).

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:37 pm
by TheCatt
Q: Are the Russians still targeting US elections?

Trump: No

(tomorrow)

Trump: I meant, 'No, they are not NOT targeting our elections.'

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:39 pm
by Vince
TheCatt wrote:
Vince wrote: He's a freaking child. "I believe our intelligence agencies and meant to say I didn't see any reason to think it WASN'T Russia."

"But it might have been someone else."
Right? And him being immature/incompetent is the BEST case scenario.
To be fair, his policy vs his public comments are almost like they're from two different people. His administration actually has been pretty tough on Russia. Which is why I really think this is just an issue of his being immature.

Also supports my belief that he really has very little to do with the day-to-day policy decisions of his White House.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:44 pm
by TheCatt
Vince wrote: To be fair, his policy vs his public comments are almost like they're from two different people. His administration actually has been pretty tough on Russia.
Yes, but ostensibly he's more than just a figurehead.
Vince wrote: Also supports my belief that he really has very little to do with the day-to-day policy decisions of his White House.
The problem is that he does appear to be the ultimate decider. NATO 2% threats, tariffs, build a wall, etc. He's not just doing nothing.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:48 pm
by Vince
Agreed. I'm just thankful he doesn't appear to be knee deep in everything his administration does :-)

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:45 pm
by TheCatt
TheCatt wrote:
Trump: I meant, 'No, they are not NOT targeting our elections.'
Now says Putin was responsible, and warned him against future meddling.

I call double bullshit.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:01 pm
by GORDON
Has anyone EVER defined the meddling, aside from fake shit on social media?

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:03 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: Has anyone EVER defined the meddling, aside from fake shit on social media?
Hacking into the DNC emails? Remember that?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016- ... index.html

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:49 pm
by GORDON
Meh. I guess having dirty laundry aired would make one look dirty.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:32 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: Meh. I guess having dirty laundry aired would make one look dirty.
Awfully blase to our country being attacked by Russia

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:16 pm
by GORDON
Yeah.

I guess it counts. I had forgotten that, but at the time I remember observing the DNC claiming that if the country knew what they really thought about things, they would lose votes. Which makes me cry for them.

"Our country" didn't get attacked. The DNC got hacked.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:34 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: The DNC got hacked.
As far as I remember, all Americans... part of our election process.... part of OUR country... so yeah, our country, attacked.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:28 pm
by GORDON
That's very dramatic.

I once downloaded a mp3 from russia. I think this heinous act of war is their way at getting back at my country for that attack on their digital sovereignty. This is not normal. Piss tape. #NeverTrump.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:33 pm
by Troy
“Honor, Courage, Commitment... unless they are Democrats” - Gordon

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:34 pm
by GORDON
Troy wrote: “Honor, Courage, Commitment... unless they are Democrats” - Gordon

nigga please.

everyone is ridiclous who takes this dumb shit seriously.