Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:13 pm
Just because.thibodeaux wrote:Why do you hate poor people?
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:53 am
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:03 am
Just doing a little random thinking at 9am...
I believe the numbers being thrown around say 2/3 of Americans have health insurance, and the rest don't. Wouldn't it be cheaper for all involved if the people with insurance were just directly responsible for paying 50% of the health costs for 1 other specific person, by penalty of death, or something? IIRC, last time I had health insurance through an employer, the monthly cost was roughly double when going from a single person to adding family members. That sounds a hell of a lot less expensive that the hundreds of billions this comprehensive health care thing is reportedly going to cost. Plus then we wont need yet another massive government department.
Just put a gun to peoples' heads and tell them to pay for their neighbor's tonsillectomy. It really sounds cheaper for all involved.
I believe the numbers being thrown around say 2/3 of Americans have health insurance, and the rest don't. Wouldn't it be cheaper for all involved if the people with insurance were just directly responsible for paying 50% of the health costs for 1 other specific person, by penalty of death, or something? IIRC, last time I had health insurance through an employer, the monthly cost was roughly double when going from a single person to adding family members. That sounds a hell of a lot less expensive that the hundreds of billions this comprehensive health care thing is reportedly going to cost. Plus then we wont need yet another massive government department.
Just put a gun to peoples' heads and tell them to pay for their neighbor's tonsillectomy. It really sounds cheaper for all involved.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:40 pm
Malcolm wrote:We need more chaos in Congress.
They digging for dirt on this guy has begun in a big way.
They've uncovered that Joe Wilson has often used caffeine.
http://thehill.com/blogs....in-2007
Wilson regularly took caffeine pills in 2007
By Jordan Fabian - 09/10/09 06:21 PM ET
Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who shouted "you lie!" at President Obama during his Wednesday night address to Congress, admitted to regularly consuming caffeine pills in 2007.
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A source told The Hill in 2007 that the congressman ingested the tablets “like candy," but Wilson insisted he was not addicted despite the fact that he had been taking them since high school.
Didn't our President admit to smoking pot or snorting coke or something?
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:20 pm
I think it's only 15% of Americans that do not have health insurance. I think I read 43 million this morning.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:52 pm
Obama said 30m last night, I thought.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:57 pm
Even better. 10 people can be directly responsible for paying for 1 person. By penalty of death.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:34 am
Malcolm wrote:We need more chaos in Congress.
Still gunning for him:
His "dirty little health care secret."
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs....et.aspx
Cut the man some slack. He's passionate! I know this because he told me, in the sole message that blazes across his campaign Web site: JOE WILSON IS PASSIONATE ABOUT STOPPING GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE!
Except that he's not─at least not when it comes to his, and his family's, government-run health care. As a retired Army National Guard colonel, Wilson gets a lot of benefits (one of which, apparently, was not a full appreciation of the customs, traditions, and courtesies that mandate respect for one's commander in chief). And with four sons in the armed services, the entire Wilson brood has enjoyed multiple generations of free military medical coverage, known as TRICARE.
Yes, he is evil and opposes Obama's plan because he was in the military and gets free health care for life. Somehow. I personally didn't know it worked that way.
edit - I read further, he is a military retiree. Therefor, opposing Obama makes him a criminal hypocrite, I guess. Burn him at the stake.
Also, from what I know so far I could vote for him in 2012.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:40 am
I loved the news stories that night about how Joe's shout united the Dems towards passing a health care bill.
Yeah, let's pass a bill that will put the country further into debt, punish the middle class for daring to have jobs and pay taxes, reward those who don't have jobs, and destroy the world's best health care system just to spite some guy who dared yell at our lord Obama.
Yeah, let's pass a bill that will put the country further into debt, punish the middle class for daring to have jobs and pay taxes, reward those who don't have jobs, and destroy the world's best health care system just to spite some guy who dared yell at our lord Obama.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:10 pm
What's interesting is that if illegal immigrants ARE covered, then Joe Wilson is right and was the only one brave enough to call out Obama and Obama really is a liar, and it was on TV and everyone knows about it.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:50 pm
We already pay for illegal immigrants anyway, since they just go to the ER, which can't refuse service, right?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:00 pm
Correct, which if it remains true would indeed make Obama a bald-faced liar.
Of course the alternative is dead illegals outside ERs. Which isn't pretty and probably not preferable. But why do a brother gots ta lie all the time for?
Of course the alternative is dead illegals outside ERs. Which isn't pretty and probably not preferable. But why do a brother gots ta lie all the time for?
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:25 pm
Concerning the abortion issue, and whether Obama's plan would cover them, the Dems, when asked, keep saying "federal money" would not be paying for abortions. Funny thing is, when Republicans tried to get a Bill passed to get that in writing, democrats voted it down.
Lotsa liars.
Lotsa liars.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:57 pm
Just now on O'Reilly:
Bill: Is what Joe Wilson did appropriate?
Some republican chick: It was rude, this isn't the House of Commons. Decorum is expected.
British guy right next to her: I take umbrage to that. In the HoC we would not have shouted out, "You lie!" We would have said to President Obama, "The honored gentleman is a bald faced liar."
Then Howard Dean, via video, said, "Unfortunately these people don't seem to care that an attack on the president is an attack on the country itself." He said it like he believed it, and like he didn't remember the Bush administration at all, so it was an example of complete cognitive dissonance. It was breathtaking.
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Bill: Is what Joe Wilson did appropriate?
Some republican chick: It was rude, this isn't the House of Commons. Decorum is expected.
British guy right next to her: I take umbrage to that. In the HoC we would not have shouted out, "You lie!" We would have said to President Obama, "The honored gentleman is a bald faced liar."
Then Howard Dean, via video, said, "Unfortunately these people don't seem to care that an attack on the president is an attack on the country itself." He said it like he believed it, and like he didn't remember the Bush administration at all, so it was an example of complete cognitive dissonance. It was breathtaking.
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:15 pm
Decorum is expected.
Sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear it over the sound of all the kickbacks being passed around.
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:24 am
Holy Chutzpah Batman.GORDON wrote:Then Howard Dean, via video, said, "Unfortunately these people don't seem to care that an attack on the president is an attack on the country itself."
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:36 pm
Then Howard Dean, via video, said, "Unfortunately these people don't seem to care that an attack on the president is an attack on the country itself."
It's stuff like this that makes me believe all politicians are simply actors. There is no possible way he believes that. No way can he be so fucking stupid as to not realize what it says about his part and the previous 8 years.
Unless he just thinks we're all too stupid to figure it out...
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:42 pm
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:56 pm
I saw someone refer to that sign as celebrating the death of Kennedy/practicing the politics of hate.
I don't see it that way.
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I don't see it that way.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:05 pm
Congress feels your healthcare pain
I mean, $503/year for all the health you can eat, fixed at that price for 17 years, with no inflation - it's tough.
I mean, $503/year for all the health you can eat, fixed at that price for 17 years, with no inflation - it's tough.