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The First Trump term.
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:18 pm
by TheCatt
Are they broken? Or just need some tweaks?
The First Trump term.
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:19 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: TheCatt wrote: Leisher wrote: If they can do it cheaper, shouldn't it be explored as an option?
Have you met our government? I can't tell if you're just fucking with me now.
A little of this, a little of that. Kind of like you do in the NCAA thread.
When I do it, I'm just playing devil's advocate. When you do it, you're being an asshole

The First Trump term.
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:29 pm
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: Leisher wrote: TheCatt wrote:
Have you met our government? I can't tell if you're just fucking with me now.
A little of this, a little of that. Kind of like you do in the NCAA thread.
When I do it, I'm just playing devil's advocate. When you do it, you're being an asshole

I always assumed you were just being racist.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:45 pm
by TheCatt
The First Trump term.
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:45 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: TheCatt wrote: Leisher wrote:
A little of this, a little of that. Kind of like you do in the NCAA thread.
When I do it, I'm just playing devil's advocate. When you do it, you're being an asshole

I always assumed you were just being racist.
I can't be racist, I'm black.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:23 am
by Vince
Leisher wrote:And delivering them meals instead of giving them a SNAP card denies them that opportunity how exactly?
Isn't this person basically saying, "They need the ability to spend that SNAP money on other things"?
“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:36 am
by Vince
Leisher wrote:
I'm fine with that. Although, I strongly dispute these fraud and misuse numbers. I've known too many folks who work at convenience stores and grocery stores who detail what those things get used for to believe misuse is that low. Hell, you can trade your SNAP cards for crack. Those numbers wouldn't even appear because the drug dealers eventually use the card properly.
I agree with the dispute of the fraud numbers. My niece has a few single mother friends on SNAP, and they've all traded their cards for cash at some point. Usually regularly. Though if the numbers of $ reaching the poor in welfare programs vs dollars spent is still as bad as it used to be (around 80% in administrative costs), then 1% fraud with another 1-9% misuse could be accounting for near 50% of dollars reaching the actual recipient.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:37 am
by TheCatt
Googling says $71B in SNAP benefits, $3.4B in admin costs (~5%). Federal $ only.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:32 am
by Leisher
TheCatt wrote: I can't be racist, I'm black.
As black as fresh snow...
TheCatt wrote: She will tell her story
Remember when the people who are clamoring for this story defended a president's extra marital affairs? It's always enjoyable to watch people shift their moral compass so they are "right" on something.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:41 am
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote: As black as fresh snow...
You can't tell me who I am.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:38 pm
by Vince
TheCatt wrote: Googling says $71B in SNAP benefits, $3.4B in admin costs (~5%). Federal $ only.
I guess it depends on how they're counting what's what. The way I heard the number for welfare (total) in the past was that about 17 cents of every dollar that goes in ends up in the hands of the person that needs it. So what dollar amount actually ends up on SNAP cards? I don't know. I just have trouble believing that the US government is efficient enough that more than 90 cents of every dollar is going on a SNAP card.
Edit: Looking into this, it looks like that number is correct, which is pretty phenomenal for the federal government.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:39 pm
by Leisher
Because Trump suggested the Florida school shooter was "mentally disturbed",
mental health advocates warn not to make such a link.
Because people who decide murdering innocents en masse are mentally balanced?
Gordon's "Never Trump" theory is in full effect on this one.
Speaking of the Florida shooting, all of you people blaming guns or mental health issues are morons. According to the governor of Kentucky,
video games are the culprit.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:31 pm
by Leisher
Ex-Playmate details Trumps alleged system for affairs.
She has no evidence other than her word, but "journalism and ethical reporting" in 2018 means report it anyway. (Although, I 100% believe her.)
Still, there has to be a God because...
run by David Pecker, a friend of Trump's
The guy who runs the enterprise behind the National Enquirer is named Pecker? C'mon, really? I wonder if CNN will be mature about this?
told The New Yorker that Pecker routinely buys and kills stories, and also protects Trump, who he considers a friend.
Nope, and I love it! When your name is Pecker, you have one option: Change your fucking name.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:33 pm
by TheCatt
You and copy/paste are not friends.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:22 pm
by Leisher
President Trump said during a listening session at the White House that violence in video games and movies is partly responsible for shaping young people’s thoughts.
“They’re so violent," Trump said.
He commented on the picture content rating system, saying youth can be restricted from watching movies because of sex, but not violence. He suggested having a similar rating system for violence.
Go fuck yourself.
There was just a stabbing at a high school here. The kid stabbed a security guard and was immediately subdued. Turns out the guard was wearing something that snapped the knife at the hilt, and barely got a scratch. When asked why, the kid said, and I quote: "I wanted to be famous."
So here's a thought, how about the MSM stop reporting these mass killers' names? Instead of making them into heroes and martyrs, make them unknown. Instead of people trying to take other people's rights away, how about everyone give up one bit of information?
The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:19 pm
by TheCatt
Bunch of people calling into our local schools with gun threats... People are actually taking their kids out of schools.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:05 am
by Leisher
Trump is apparently trying to use tariffs to bully other countries.
I guess I'll withhold condemning this until we see if it works or not.
Sessions greenlights illegal seizures of property.
Remember when the Constitution mattered?
I wonder why they're so anxious to take our guns away...
The First Trump term.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:49 am
by GORDON
Thieves are scum, moreso if they wear a uniform.
The First Trump term.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:20 pm
by Leisher
GORDON wrote: Thieves are scum, moreso if they wear a uniform.
So a McDonald's worker is a bigger scum of a thief than Jeff Sessions?
The First Trump term.
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:22 pm
by GORDON
... did you really misconstrue my intent?