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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:02 pm
by TheCatt
Pragmatism > Clinging to retarded principles

I don't know about lying sack of shit. Maybe. I have little doubt he said some things that he knew he wouldn't be able to deliver. On the other hand, I'm sure it looks a lot different once you're in office than when you're running a campaign.

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:25 pm
by TPRJones
Sounds like he might just possibly be some sort of politician? I'm just guessing here.

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:22 pm
by Vince
The irony is that the policies that Obama's flipping on the most are the ones that deal with national security (and taking Bush's stances), and those were the ones that Bush was most criticized for.

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:39 pm
by GORDON
Exactly right.

And, I have a feeling the Government branch of the MSM has been instructed to "prepare" us for across-the-board tax hikes. "Flip flops are for your own good!" indeed.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:15 pm
by TPRJones
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:24 pm
by Cakedaddy
Ya. But it's GW's fault we have to drive that fast. And because it's still his fault, it's ok now.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:26 pm
by GORDON
Obama himself is all politician, saying and doing what needs to be said, no matter what, to get power.

His wife has a long and documented history of being an angry black women who hates whitey first, America second.

Obama's LONG time spiritual leader was a documented angry black man who was on record as hating America first, whitey second.

Maybe in retrospect it's a bit ridiculous to think Obama wants anything except to destroy this country as we've known it, except quite a few people suspected it long before he was elected. These people are currently known as "racists." This is why Obama is driving the car at 174 mph toward the bridge abutment, with Nancy Pelosi riding shotgun. Chicago politics married to San Francisco sensibilities, enabled by liberal guilt. We're fucked.




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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:20 pm
by GORDON
"Cap & Trade Bill" gets closer to being passed.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archive....779.php

Also known as the "Global Warming Tax," or the "Starve and Freeze Bill," this will send our energy bills higher in an already bad economy.

It's like they weren't trying to destroy the economy fast enough, they need to throw this in the fire, too.

When even the Slashdot crowd is against a so-called environmental bill, you know it's bad news.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:23 pm
by Troy
For some reason Slashdot has become my new "spare time waster" of choice at the new job.

Not sure why it wasn't until now.

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:58 pm
by GORDON
They skew really liberal most of the time, but every now and then you get someone really smart discussing a subject.

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:46 am
by GORDON
Get ready to have your private health insurance taxed.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aDvu77pZr7k4

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, the chief congressional advocate of taxing some employer-provided benefits to help pay for an overhaul of the U.S. health system, says any change should exempt perks secured in existing collective- bargaining agreements, which can be in place for as long as five years.

The exception, which could make the proposal more politically palatable to Democrats from heavily unionized states such as Michigan, is adding controversy to an already contentious debate. It would shield the 12.4 percent of American workers who belong to unions from being taxed while exposing some other middle-income workers to the levy.

“I can’t think of any other aspect of the individual income tax that treats benefits of different people differently because of who they work for,” said Chris Edwards, director of tax policy studies at the Cato Institute, a Washington research group that often criticizes Democrats’ economic proposals. Edwards said the carve-out “smacks of political favoritism.”

Baucus, a Montana Democrat, is proposing to tax Americans whose health insurance is valued at a higher rate than what is offered to federal employees. About 40 percent of insured Americans have costlier benefits, and Baucus has said he is trying to set the level at which taxes would be imposed high enough so fewer people are affected.


Just too many sarcastic things to say. I am vapor locked.

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:48 am
by GORDON
GORDON wrote:"Cap & Trade Bill" gets closer to being passed.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archive....779.php

Also known as the "Global Warming Tax," or the "Starve and Freeze Bill," this will send our energy bills higher in an already bad economy.

It's like they weren't trying to destroy the economy fast enough, they need to throw this in the fire, too.

When even the Slashdot crowd is against a so-called environmental bill, you know it's bad news.

The bill passed in the House.

http://hotair.com/archive....d-trade

I guess now lets see what the Senate does with it.




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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:58 pm
by GORDON
I wasn't sure whether to put this in the "Global Warming is Bullshit" thread, or here.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10274412-38.html

The Environmental Protection Agency may have suppressed an internal report that was skeptical of claims about global warming, including whether carbon dioxide must be strictly regulated by the federal government, according to a series of newly disclosed e-mail messages.

Less than two weeks before the agency formally submitted its pro-regulation recommendation to the White House, an EPA center director quashed a 98-page report that warned against making hasty "decisions based on a scientific hypothesis that does not appear to explain most of the available data."

The EPA official, Al McGartland, said in an e-mail message (PDF) to a staff researcher on March 17: "The administrator and the administration has decided to move forward...and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision."


Hellooooo Cap & Trade.

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:19 pm
by Malcolm
It seems that the new U.S. state-sponsored religion is going back to nature worship.

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:41 pm
by GORDON
Cap & Trade "A huge regressive tax." - Warren Buffet

http://www.abcnews.go.com/ThisWee....&page=1

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let's begin with that vote Friday night in the House, this vote on climate change legislation, very close, 219 to 212. Democrats say it's a major step forward for energy independence, to create green jobs, to control global warming.

But you know the Republicans are saying it's going to cost Americans jobs, going to send jobs overseas. And most important, they say it is a huge tax. And on that they have some backup from one of the president's supporters, Warren Buffett.

Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

WARREN BUFFETT, CEO, BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY: I think if you get into the way it was written, it's a huge tax and there's no sense calling it anything else. I mean, it is a tax. So it -- and it's a fairly regressive tax.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STEPHANOPOULOS: How do you answer that? Republicans say this is the defining vote of 2008. They're going to use that in the 2010 elections.


Bend over, peeps.

And I think Troy said something about Obama working to get the economy back on track?




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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:46 pm
by Malcolm
Obama's grasp of economic concepts is beginning to worry me. Substantially more than it did a few months ago.

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:52 pm
by GORDON
I'm surprised you think he ever had a grasp of economic concepts. I never had reason to believe that.



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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:00 pm
by GORDON
Prepare for the home-lighting gestapo.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic....omments

Something for his youth corps to do... walk the streets at night and drag peeps out of their homes if they have too many lights burning inside. For mother earth.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:25 pm
by TheCatt
From another article:
The new rules will go into effect in 2012, and will save up to 594 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions and save consumers up to 4 billion annually through 2042.

Standards will include decreasing electricity use by general service fluorescent lamps by 15% and incandescent reflector lamps by 25%. These lamps represent 37% and 7% of lighting energy use respectively.

So that means that I can still get normal lightbulbs, but they'll use less energy? I'm ok with that, assuming a cost increase that's not disproportionate to the reduced energy cost.

But I couldn't find anything that gave more details than the above.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:27 pm
by Leisher
Is there not a single reporter with the brains or balls to ask "Mr. Obama, why do you care about $4 billion dollars that consumers are putting into this country's economy? What good can come from trying to reduce that number? What gives you the right to tell consumers what kind of lamps they can use? Shouldn't you be more concerned with government spending? How much money will it cost taxpayers for you to legislate this plan?"