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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:14 pm
by Malcolm
You might be able to find some emperor/Vader lookalikes, but eventually someone will notice the lack of force powers, then the big players start carving the empire up, not to mention the various alliance members reclaiming their own planets and systems. If you had more Sith to step up or maybe a thrawn, you've got a shot at keeping the empire together. But that shit would crumble and disintegrate within weeks of Anakin dethroning and defenestrating Palpatine. States that big have powerful and/or numerous competitors that would swoop in. Also, you think the alliance is going to stop its push? Or is it going to get more support now that they've crippled the imperial leadership?
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:52 am
by Leisher
The Timothy Zahn books actually explained what happened in the power vacuum after the Emperor died.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:55 am
by TPRJones
Doesn't count anymore, Disney made that all didn't happen.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:01 am
by Leisher
Yeah, I know. I was just pointing out that someone who could actually write did it.
Does anyone know if "Aftermath" tried to explain what happened? That's supposed to be the canon events between Return 6 and 7. It's too bad they hired an illiterate writer.
I really hope they bring Thrawn into the new canon. That guy was awesome.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:19 pm
by Leisher
Potential spoiler about Luke
I say potential because this is a clip from the show Dinner for Five from 2005 that just happened to include Mark Hamill and JJ Abrams. Skip to 11:30 and watch Mark talk about where he thought Luke was going....
I truly hope they don't go this route because it'll take a serious stretch to explain it. I mean a seriously fucking huge leap of faith for me to believe the character changes in this way.
That being said, there is an enormous good he would fill. Of course, they'd be risking the ire of Star Wars fans everywhere. I don't think it'd be a popular move.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:20 pm
by GORDON
Are Tuskan Raiders supposed to be humans, or what?
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:35 pm
by TPRJones
30 years is a long time, I can see something like that being believable if they build into it properly. But it would take some very careful storytelling and character work to pull it off.
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:40 pm
by Leisher
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:24 pm
by TPRJones
It's not like you can't find the image with a simple google image search. Once it's out there it won't go away.
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:46 pm
by Troy
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:36 am
by Leisher
I think a Sith Luke Skywalker is too easy and would piss off the fans unless done absolutely perfectly.
I believe Luke is going to be an a mix of Yoda and the Emperor. He'll walk a path between the light and dark.
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:39 pm
by Malcolm
New theory: Kylo Ren is the incestuous product of a drunken Luke-Leia hookup after the party on Endor's moon.
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:28 am
by Leisher
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:18 pm
by Leisher
Ranting from a bar stool...
Luke can't be a Sith. It would betray the original trilogy. Think about it. The trilogy was about his journey and making him the big bad would void that. Also, killing him off would be a cheap hit too. You can kill anyone else, but not Luke. Not the key ingredient to the original trilogy. It'd feel as cheap as the opening of Friday the 13th part 2 when Jason shoved the ice pick through the temple of the chick from the original.
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:24 pm
by TPRJones
Speculative response (any spoilers are due to accidental brilliance on my part and not inside information):
I think you could build a story that has Luke fulfilling the Obi Wan role and dying at the end as his mentor before him. But it would be a fine line to walk to avoid having it be a cheap copy of the first movie.
Come to think of it, the first of each trilogy of films included that element. It's practically a tradition.
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:16 am
by Leisher
I watched the shit out of the trailers last night. I have more to speculate, so if you don't want possible spoilers, move on...
Speculation:
-Luke is Yoda, not Obi Wan.
-Rey and Kylo Ren are siblings and the kids of Han and Leia.
-Finn is a misdirection. Notice the constant images of him wielding the lightsaber? I think Rey is the Jedi. Not saying Finn can't be, but this is Rey's story.
-This really feels like a remake of A New Hope. I pray it isn't.
-Han dies.
-Chewie might die too. I hope not. (If someone sees this before me, please let me know this spoiler because I have a daughter who LOVES Chewie and I'm not sure if I'd take her. At the very least I'd prep her.)
That's all I've got for now.
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:35 pm
by Malcolm
Theory:
Kylo Ren is Greedo's long-lost son dedicated to hunting down the asshole that preemptively shot his dad and the rest of his murdering friends.
Also, what it's like to deal with someone who's insane.
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:26 pm
by TheCatt
Theory:
- I have no idea what you people are talking about.
- Apparently I should watch the trailers.
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:16 pm
by GORDON
Lucas is still whining that he hasn't been included in the new movies because they wanted to make good movies, this time.
And I am skipping trailers. Too spoilery any more.
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:22 am
by Leisher
Lucas won't shut the fuck up. Now he's explaining why Han shot first. Notice how he's trying to retcon it to say Han shot first all along, we just couldn't tell? They point out in the article that nobody but Lucas says the original script had Greedo shooting first.
As someone else on the FB points out: "So Indy can shot the swordsman without cause, but Han can't shoot Greedo who has a gun in Han's face and is telling him he's collecting a bounty on him?"
Another point: The hero of your movie can murder hundreds of thousands of people with a single shot from his X-Wing and that's ok, but Han can't shoot a bounty hunter before the bounty hunter shoots him? I mean, there HAD to be families on that Death Star.
To reaffirm that Lucas is full of shit, I dug up this article about his first script.
Han shot first.
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