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So I agree we need to let the process play out, every side is allowed to take stock in the results for a week or two.

But based on the direction the vote totals are going - Pennsylvania is going more Biden everyday with absentee and provisional - how long is enough to satisfy democracy, liberty, and freedom?

"Gore/Bush had 30 days" is a good comparison, but it was one state at a 500 vote margin, which isn't in the same ballpark with multiple states to victory and much higher vote totals.

I'm fine with Trump not conceding, as long as it doesn't interfere with transition activities. They should go ahead and release the transition funds + start that process, they can always just stop it if things change.

Electors vote on Dec 14th. GA + PA both have certification dates of next week, NV + AZ about 10 days after that. So there are your drop dead dates, imho.

TheCatt wrote: I'm fine with Trump not conceding, as long as it doesn't interfere with transition activities. They should go ahead and release the transition funds + start that process, they can always just stop it if things change.

Electors vote on Dec 14th. GA + PA both have certification dates of next week, NV + AZ about 10 days after that. So there are your drop dead dates, imho.

Agreed.

The USPS employee, identified as Richard Hopkins, signed a sworn affidavit alleging ballot tampering and fraud. In the affidavit, the postal worker alleged that postal supervisory officials hatched a plan to backdate ballots mailed after the election.

The Oversight Committee said Hopkins was interviewed by investigators Friday and Monday recanted the allegations without saying why he signed a false affidavit. There is no word if Hopkins will face perjury charges.

https://www.wbtw.com/news/elections/usp ... legations/

Has to be guilty of something, extreme idiocy. I heard he got some $$$'s for this but can't figure out how much.

Putting up flyers now
Lost: Election
Reward: $1 Million Dollars

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre ... e13681ab7f

But also:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibU5KVFCg4Y&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=ProjectVeritas

What in the hell is going on here?

Of course he's a white incel.

Troy wrote: What in the hell is going on here?

He claims he was quoting someone, not failing to log into a fake account.

Rather than leave the country, MS state lawmaker wants Mississippi to "succeed" from the US



I mean, the rest of us kinda want that, too.

I hope everyone can succeed, personally. Also increase the quality of their public education.

Let's give Dean Browning the benefit of the doubt and say he's telling the truth.

Now he's an incompetent politician who doesn't understand technology or how to quote people.

Either way, he's an idiot.

Speaking of idiots, Price Wallace and everyone like him (including the Ds who wanted CA, OR, and WA to form their own nation if Trump won) should all be removed from office immediately for incompetence, stupidity, and division. We really need to eliminate politicians who talk in such extremely divisive ways. The MSM does a good enough job of that, we don't need our politicians piling on.

I think I'd enjoy the chaos and regret if California voted themselves out of the USA.

Since election, I've been hooked up into the Trump internet community. I am starting to worry about the rhetoric of the deep right wing online. I'm hoping they are just passing through the anger phase of loss.

Their message has evolved to "crush the steal" from Bannon on whatever network they have ostacized him to today. They are convinced 100's of thousands of votes have been manufactured and it's up to them to find it. Otherwise, it's Hunter Biden and the Chinese Government taking over.

They bought(?? $25k?) the entire PA voter database and are doing something to it? Lots of talk about guns and being ready to go.

Even if 99.9% of these guys are just fat mil sim wannabees, some crazy with a gun is going to take this too far pretty soon.

Put them in public stocks as a warning to other wack jobs.

Troy wrote: some crazy with a gun is going to take this too far pretty soon.

This IS going to happen. Just a matter of time.

If Trump had won, a lot of big cities would still be on fire right now. So no matter who won, blood was/is going to be shed.

Blame the politicians, their parties, the MSM, celebs, etc. who keep using "the sky is falling" mentality to push their agenda and rally their base.

I know people on the right who genuinely thought the country was at stake during Trump/Clinton. We've all seen the people who genuinely feared for their lives if Trump had won reelection.

"Vote as if your life depends on it...because it does." or some variation of it is something I saw a LOT during this election cycle.

It's insanity and needs to end.

The media does all it can to incite violence. They don't make money unless people are glued to their news feeds, or clicking on their articles. It is necessary for their survival for one side to be scared to death of the other, to the point of insane violence.

Fortunately for them, "There's a sucker born every minute."

Leisher wrote: I know people on the right who genuinely thought the country was at stake during Trump/Clinton. We've all seen the people who genuinely feared for their lives if Trump had won reelection.

The person at easter dinner who screamed at me that W was going to bring back the draft and invade Iran is now suffering from dementia, and probably doesn't even remember that any more.