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TheCatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:09 pm

Leisher wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:08 pm Desalination technologies need to be developed and put into place fast. It's amazing this has never been prioritized before.

Pretty sure some area in CA just vetoed a possible desalination plant.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/califo ... 022-05-13/

I'm ok with that based on this:

That is enough for 400,000 people, but the plant would use a process that staff experts at the commission said would devastate marine life and expose the plant to future risk of sea level rise while producing expensive water too costly for low-income consumers.

The tech has to have a negative or neutral impact on the environment. We need to stop just pushing problems into the future. Solve them now.

Leisher wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:08 pm The Western U.S. is a mess due to drought.

Desalination technologies need to be developed and put into place fast. It's amazing this has never been prioritized before.

Because stealing it from somewhere else was cheaper.

Researchers make the case for lawsuits against the U.S. and China.

Good luck with that.

Horseshit from top to bottom, left to right. And on the Z axis. A giant cube of horseshit.

Pearl Jam cancels tour date = propaganda opportunity

The band told fans on Instagram that lead singer Eddie Vedder's throat was "damaged" at his last show outside Paris due to heat, dust and smoke from nearby fires.

The dust and smoke are absolutely understandable, but "heat"? Really? Drink some water asshole.

Eddie Vedder is a well known whackado environmentalist. (Great talent, but that level of stupid one gets to when they get too rich and never really experience the world as a poor.)

Ha!

I had heard once that Yellow Leadbetter has no actual lyrics. No idea if that's true, but if it does have lyrics, Eddie sucks at enunciation.

CNN lies about who to blame for U.S. ineptitude on climate change.

Money is the correct answer. Wall St., corporations, and their bought and paid for legislators are why the U.S. can't work on polluting less. It's certainly not Joe Machin's fault or John Q. Public.

This is pretty cool. Seems easy, cheap, and could be installed basically anywhere.

Farmer protests in the Netherlands still going and looking more aggressive.

I'm really wondering why Bill Gates is now the largest private owner of farmland in the USA. The conspiracist in me says he's going to let it all go fallow, and let people starve in the name of the environment.

Even if one doesn't think it's concerning, it is curious.

The latest crime against the environment? Indoor plants.

In other news, Bill Maher makes several excellent points about why we need malls and the environment is a primary reason.

That makes no sense. You know how far people would drive to go to stores, instead of how far a UPS goes between Amazon deliveries? Our block has 20 houses, and the other day it made 5 stops. I watched a UPS truck do a 4 hour delivery route once. It went < 4 miles.

When brick and mortar stores were for more than just shoplifting

And ya. Instead of 30 people going to the store once a month. The truck delivers to 30 people a day. Kind of the same amount of driving.

Did you watch the video? Tons of comments from Amazon (and other delivery) workers confirming.

It absolutely makes sense if you break it all down.

I can debate this longer later. Getting bombarded at the moment.

Plus there's the porch pirate industry to think about.

One shipment of a small number of stuffed boxes heading to a mall is a smaller hit to the environment than 1 item per box heading to countless locations, including multiple boxes containing just one item heading to one location. This is all before returns.

Also, the entire retail process is sped up to ridiculous speeds. Instead of just putting stuff into stores and basically gearing up for seasons, now it's an endless cycle of daily new seasons where new product has to be constantly invented, made, and marketed. Thus, Kohl's and GAP simply storing clothes to be sold next year is a national news story.

Honestly, if we eliminated all the delivery services and went back to the USPS making one visit a day that'd be the best thing for the environment.

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:27 pm One shipment of a small number of stuffed boxes heading to a mall is a smaller hit to the environment than 1 item per box heading to countless locations, including multiple boxes containing just one item heading to one location.

You have to compare last mile on both. I still say no, shipping wins. Also a major win for traffic.

Leisher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:27 pm Honestly, if we eliminated all the delivery services and went back to the USPS making one visit a day that'd be the best thing for the environment.

I dont want to live in your world.