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Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:20 am
by Vince
thibodeaux wrote:
Talk about not getting it. It's too late to prevent totalitarian government. WE HAVE THAT ALREADY. The only way out is through Trump.
Considering the depths of Trump's understanding of the Constitution and limited government as demonstrated by his speeches and his campaign, this is akin to saying the only way to heart transplant surgery is through a spider monkey.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:22 am
by Leisher
They still are the go-to destination for people who think the government false flagged a half dozen school shootings, right?
I have no idea. I grabbed a link, qualified it, and am not their defender.
I will say that even the National Enquirer broke real stories from time to time.
Another thing that bothers me is how there are moments when something legit does happen and "legit" media outlets don't cover it. I don't have examples off the top of my head, but I know we've discussed stories that only FOX has covered in the past because the entire other side of the political spectrum refused to acknowledge whatever the event was. How does that not hurt their credibility? When they're caught blatantly making up stories, how does that not hurt their credibility? When they hire biased assholes and present their opinions as news, how does that not hurt their credibility? (I love that last question because everyone who leans left was screaming about "Faux News" and everyone who leans right was screaming about "MSNBC", although to be fair they could scream about them all.)
Still waiting on any indictments of voter fraud en masse.
Even if such a thing was proven, you'd ignore it anyway.
But honestly, are they looking for it this time? They won. Do they give a shit? I know there's questions about voter fraud in NC right now over the governor's race or something.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:43 am
by Leisher
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:04 am
by Leisher
Speaking of biased reporting...
There's a video in
our YouTube thread that everyone reported as a Trump supporter tackling an anti-Trump supporter. It ends with the crowd hilariously shouting "shame" at the tackler. Well, guess what?
He's mentally challenged and a Hillary supporter. (Let the punchlines flow from that one...)
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:44 am
by Leisher
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:58 am
by GORDON
Obama banned lobbyists from the White House, so his staffers would meet them across the street at the coffee house where there wasn't any record of meeting them.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:01 am
by Leisher
GORDON wrote:Obama banned lobbyists from the White House, so his staffers would meet them across the street at the coffee house where there wasn't any record of meeting them.
How dare you suggest such a thing about the "most transparent administration in history." Clearly you're racist.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:00 pm
by Malcolm
I know there's questions about voter fraud in NC right now over the governor's race or something.
Questions are not charges, let alone convictions.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:04 pm
by Malcolm
Vince wrote:thibodeaux wrote:
Talk about not getting it. It's too late to prevent totalitarian government. WE HAVE THAT ALREADY. The only way out is through Trump.
Considering the depths of Trump's understanding of the Constitution and limited government as demonstrated by his speeches and his campaign, this is akin to saying the only way to heart transplant surgery is through a spider monkey.
Let the games begin.
In his remarks to House Republicans, Pence talked about how he and the new administration wanted members to “buckle up,” and get ready for a speedy start on policy.

Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:22 pm
by GORDON
Leisher wrote:GORDON wrote:Obama banned lobbyists from the White House, so his staffers would meet them across the street at the coffee house where there wasn't any record of meeting them.
How dare you suggest such a thing about the "most transparent administration in history." Clearly you're racist.
Didn't we post a hidden vid of the New York election commisioner (or whatever) bragging about how easily they frequently cheated on elections, and Malcolm blew that off?
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:25 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Leisher wrote:GORDON wrote:Obama banned lobbyists from the White House, so his staffers would meet them across the street at the coffee house where there wasn't any record of meeting them.
How dare you suggest such a thing about the "most transparent administration in history." Clearly you're racist.
Didn't we post a hidden vid of the New York election commisioner (or whatever) bragging about how easily they frequently cheated on elections, and Malcolm blew that off?
Resulting in a grand total of zero charges. Must've been some ironclad evidence considering the the other party's favourite word the month before the election was "rigged."
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:28 pm
by GORDON
And Hillary absolutely had classified shit on a private server, which other people are currently serving time for doing, but since she isn't in jail that means it didn't happen.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:40 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:And Hillary absolutely had classified shit on a private server, which other people are currently serving time for doing, but since she isn't in jail that means it didn't happen.
Is your argument that the other side is so incompetent they can't even get a conviction with video evidence?
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:44 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:And Hillary absolutely had classified shit on a private server, which other people are currently serving time for doing, but since she isn't in jail that means it didn't happen.
Is your argument that the other side is so incompetent they can't even get a conviction with video evidence?
No, crooked.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:02 pm
by TheCatt
Malcolm wrote:I know there's questions about voter fraud in NC right now over the governor's race or something.
Questions are not charges, let alone convictions.
Sounds fishy. It's not really the governor's race, per se... but the gov race is only 5,000 apart.
Officials have been looking into handwriting similarities in more than 100 mail-in absentee ballots since before Election Day in response to a large number of write-in votes. They included votes cast as straight Democratic Party tickets and a write-in candidate for soil and water conservation supervisor.
A forensic document examiner was brought in by Republican interests and on Tuesday he reported there were indications that at least 167 mail-in ballots were written by seven people. The examiner said he might find more if he had sufficient time. He noted there were about 400 ballots with that write-in candidate’s name and about 275 envelopes under scrutiny.
Some of those whose handwriting has been examined were paid by a local community association that receives N.C. Democratic Party funding to encourage voter turnout. It is legal to help someone fill out a ballot but that must be disclosed. Few if any such disclosures were made in these instances. Similar handwriting was seen in those signing that they had witnessed the absentee ballots.
The Democratic Party says the issue is confined to a single, nonpartisan, local contest.
Read more here:
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politi ... rylink=cpy
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:09 pm
by GORDON
Hills is so honest, Jesse Jackson is campaigning a presidential pardon, for her.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/jesse-j ... id/759298/
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:27 pm
by TheCatt
I'm OK with a pardon. I'd rather we move on with more important matters.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:37 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:And Hillary absolutely had classified shit on a private server, which other people are currently serving time for doing, but since she isn't in jail that means it didn't happen.
Is your argument that the other side is so incompetent they can't even get a conviction with video evidence?
No, crooked.
So, one side's too crooked to ever get nailed or other side's too crooked to catch them ... or both?
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:51 pm
by TPRJones
Leisher wrote:Did those studies cover legal or illegal immigrants?
I believe every word of your statement in relation to legal immigrants.
Yes, that's why I discussed the importance of both allowing a path to immigration as well as still making it moderately difficult. I was specifically responding to the idea that we need to shut down or severely limit legal immigration, which is presumably what he meant by "importing". In the long run that would lead to economic stagnation.
As you strangle the path to legal immigration, some of those hard-worker types will still come any illegally. But then you won't get taxes out of them and their ability to add their industriousness to our economy is subdued, so that's no help.
Re: The First Trump term.
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:14 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:
Is your argument that the other side is so incompetent they can't even get a conviction with video evidence?
No, crooked.
So, one side's too crooked to ever get nailed or other side's too crooked to catch them ... or both?
Absolutely both. That shit would never apply to regular people, btw.