Stranger wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:22 am
Per a former federal judge: "behavior was nonviolent sexual conduct" so NOT sexual assault.
Oh shit! My bad! He didn't use violence on these women, so it's ok everybody. The much larger man rubbed his erect and exposed dick on smaller, nonconsenting women in a totally passive and peaceful way. We should build a shrine in his honor!
Jokes aside, what you cite is a technicality. Had it gone to trial we would have heard about intimidation based on his gender and size. Then violence would have been introduced to the charges. It's like strong arm robbery. Sometimes you don't need to actually hit someone to be violent.
Stranger wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:22 am
I'd question the intelligence of those who do.
Feel free. In fact, let's look at the actual facts:
He paid off all but one person who accused him (She has not accepted the offer.). The Texans did the same. He had access to free massage therapists, but instead hired dozens of different women in a short time period. He had them meet him at a hotel and sign NDAs. All the women have had similar stories of him inappropriately touching them, asking for sexual favors, touching them with his dick without permission, and so on.
Side note: I do want to address the payoffs. His claim will be "The NFL/agent/someotherscapegoat told me to do it." There IS truth in that, but there is also truth in that he, nor the NFL/Browns/Texans/etc., want these things to go to trial where details of his behavior will become part of public record.
Anyway, so what you're saying is all of that behavior is logical, understandable, legal, and socially acceptable? All 24 women are greedy liars who just happen to all have similar stories? You are 100% certain it all makes sense without the illegal or immoral aspects? You would tell your son to behave in the same manner towards women?
At best he was paying women to do sexual favors for him, which is still illegal in Texas. Thus, my original statement wins.
He is a textbook sexual predator. He picked a profession that is not in the sex trade and then went out of his way to take advantage of women alone in those situations. That is what gets him off. The taboo of the situation, the power he has over them, and so on.
When BB was accused the first time it was easy to brush aside because there was no evidence and then the evidence did come out exonerating him. However, that second time it was tough. He clearly did something bad, paid the girl off, and then got suspended. It always bugged me about him and still does even now. Do I think he was a serial rapist? No, but he got drunk, was full of himself, and then very likely overstepped some boundaries. Nothing ever happened again and by all accounts he lived perfectly from then on, but again, it still bugs me about him.
Point being, I get your defense of him as a fan, but man, don't drag yourself down to his level. Root for your team. Root for the player. Don't feel like you have to extend that to the man off the field.
At least that's how I dealt with BB.
Stranger wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:28 am
Illegal, not really. That's why he got suspended.
Actually, it is very illegal to rub your exposed dick on people without permission. It's also very illegal to pay for sex outside of shooting porn or certain areas of Reno/Vegas. These are indisputable facts.
If you want to debate that, don't bother. It'd just be words. Instead, on Wednesday pull out your dick at golf and rub it on the beer girl. Let's see who is right and who is wrong.
Why he was only suspended this long is because they can't build a case on "he said/she said" or the NFL wouldn't need to rule on shit as he'd be heading to jail. Technically, there's nothing to show his behavior aside from the admitted actions of him and the Texans, which all by themselves are creepy and incriminating.