Real story: Obama will support it if it helps him politically
While Obama opposes gay marriage, he says his personal views on the matter are "evolving" and has noted that polls show Americans are increasingly supporting same-sex marriage.
The First Obama Term
Finally, the man tells you what he really thinks.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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The majority of voters think he doesn't believe in gay marriage, but did this as a political move. Ouch.
Of those folks who believe this move will affect their vote, 16% said this will make them more likely to vote for him, while 26% said this will make them more likely to vote against him.
Also, Romney apparently is leading by 3 points in the latest polls.
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The majority of voters think he doesn't believe in gay marriage, but did this as a political move. Ouch.
Of those folks who believe this move will affect their vote, 16% said this will make them more likely to vote for him, while 26% said this will make them more likely to vote against him.
Also, Romney apparently is leading by 3 points in the latest polls.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I guarantee this wasn't a political move. After all, most the folks in favor of equal rights on this issue were already pretty likely to vote for him, and all the bigots opposed to gay marriage were already pretty likely to vote for anyone else available. This whole thing is a political mess for him.
Yet it's still the only good thing I've seen any President do since at least Reagan. Biden may have pushed him into it, but he's taken a stand on an important issue in the Oval Office and isn't backing down even in the face of demagoguery from the homo-hating right and black so-called "Christian" preachers that despise the idea of some fags having equal rights. Good on him.
Still not voting for him, of course.
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Yet it's still the only good thing I've seen any President do since at least Reagan. Biden may have pushed him into it, but he's taken a stand on an important issue in the Oval Office and isn't backing down even in the face of demagoguery from the homo-hating right and black so-called "Christian" preachers that despise the idea of some fags having equal rights. Good on him.
Still not voting for him, of course.
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I guarantee this wasn't a political move.
I guarantee it was a political move.
This announcement wasn't coming. This was Biden's big mouth forcing Obama to take a stance.
(On a side note, Biden is proof that the MSM has a bias towards Democrats. If they didn't, this guy would constantly be getting the Dan Quail treatment.)
First of all, as I've said, I don't think Obama likes women, but he's ok with gay folk? Bullshit.
Secondly, why now right before his second election? Why not put it on front street way back in 2008?
Third, why isn't he pushing to make a federal case out of it like this guy.
This was all about pandering to the left and appease them for all the other promises to them he's broken. Who has been most outspoken about gay rights? Hollywood. Who isn't there to support Obama this election like they were the first election? Hollywood.
I honestly look at all the people who buy into Obama's bullshit and think, "Barnum was right". I don't understand how anyone takes him seriously. The lies are right there on his face. Maybe it's a poker thing?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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Maybe I'm biased, but I frequently see Republican/right-wingers do the "he's an SOB, but he's our SOB" stuff, like with Bush: not really thrilled with him, but he's better than the OTHER guy.
Democrats, on the other hand, seem to really believe in the awesomeness of their guy. Even with Bill Clinton (if you can believe that), but with Obama, it's on a completely different level. People really do act like he farts rainbows.
Democrats, on the other hand, seem to really believe in the awesomeness of their guy. Even with Bill Clinton (if you can believe that), but with Obama, it's on a completely different level. People really do act like he farts rainbows.
Most of the stuff I've seen in the past year or so about Obama has been more along the lines of "he's an SOB, but he's our SOB". There are exceptions, of course. Mostly in the African American community.
Here I totally agree with you. He couldn't just leave it hanging there unanswered after that. But then he took that stance, even though half of the country will have him for it. It seems just as potentially damaging politically than beneficial, if not more so. That's why I think it was an honest stance. It would have been pretty easy to shove it back into the closet until after the election.
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This announcement wasn't coming. This was Biden's big mouth forcing Obama to take a stance.
Here I totally agree with you. He couldn't just leave it hanging there unanswered after that. But then he took that stance, even though half of the country will have him for it. It seems just as potentially damaging politically than beneficial, if not more so. That's why I think it was an honest stance. It would have been pretty easy to shove it back into the closet until after the election.
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Rep. James Clyburn, the House Democrats’ third-ranking leader, said on MSNBC’s Daily Rundown Monday that the question of legal recognition of marriage between same-sex couples should not be left to state laws, but instead ought to be decided at the national level, a position that puts him at odds with President Barack Obama.
Agreed, Mr. Clyburn.
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Obama's budget defeated 99-0 in Senate.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog....-senate
Wow, maybe Obama really is ushering in a new era of political cooperation. Everyone hates him equally.
Yeah, I know.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog....-senate
Wow, maybe Obama really is ushering in a new era of political cooperation. Everyone hates him equally.
Yeah, I know.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
There is documentation that claims Obama was born in Kenya.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Gov....-Hawaii
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Gov....-Hawaii
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
And his literary agent was using that documentation until 2007.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Gov....se-2007
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Gov....se-2007
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."