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The First Trump term.

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:21 pm
by GORDON
what russia-trump thing? i think it has fallen down the memory hole.

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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:58 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote: what russia-trump thing? i think it has fallen down the memory hole.
COLLUSION

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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:03 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote: They'd have given it up for obama prolly.
And drumpf would have been the first troll on Twitter bitching about how wrong it was.

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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:50 pm
by GORDON
TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote: what russia-trump thing? i think it has fallen down the memory hole.
COLLUSION
Remember how the hippies were having early morning "watching parties" to watch that guy testify about how crooked trump was... and how crestfallen they were after it turned out he wasn't and you stopped hearing much about it?

That was pretty funny.

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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:20 pm
by Leisher
Malcolm wrote:
GORDON wrote: They'd have given it up for obama prolly.
And drumpf would have been the first troll on Twitter bitching about how wrong it was.
No argument here.

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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:56 pm
by Malcolm
Leisher wrote: However, shouldn't the federal government be allowed to create a group for this specific task and get said data? Not saying they're right to hunt for this white whale, but if they can't even hunt for it, how would they ever know if there really is voter fraud happening or not happening?
Because there's goddamn near 0% confidence it would be carried out in a competent, let alone sane and relevant, fashion. I simply can't believe the dude who can't stop making an ass off himself on twitter on a daily basis is genuinely serious about investigating or reforming any thing in any way that ultimately doesn't serve his interests. It's like Zapp Branningan's in charge, except he's a bigger asshole and missing a Kif. If the Reality TV Party really wanted to look towards the future, they'd find a way to slip him into a medically induced coma for the remainder of his term.

ADDENDUM: Whoa. Someone's reading my mind.
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:41 pm
by Leisher
Malcolm wrote: Because there's goddamn near 0% confidence it would be carried out in a competent, let alone sane and relevant, fashion. I simply can't believe the dude who can't stop making an ass off himself on twitter on a daily basis is genuinely serious about investigating or reforming any thing in any way that ultimately doesn't serve his interests. It's like Zapp Branningan's in charge, except he's a bigger asshole and missing a Kif. If the Reality TV Party really wanted to look towards the future, they'd find a way to slip him into a medically induced coma for the remainder of his term.
Oh! My bad! I didn't realize Obama was a competent leader. Here I was looking at record spending, a shit show of a foreign policy, a healthcare joke that's going to destroy the world's #1 health care system, openly mocking religious people, gun owners, southerners, everyone that didn't vote for him, the continued restrictions on your rights, being forced into pretending he was for gay marriage, etc. I should have just been noticing his Twitter feed wasn't full of him being an asshole...you know, as long as you voted for him.

Trump is a dick and in no way is this a defense of him, but condemning every move he makes because he's a dick is fucking ridiculous. Cosby is a piece of shit serial rapist, but the motherfucker still did more for race relations than Obama ever did.

Name anything the government has run well despite who is in charge. That's the real concern. Not some small dicked asshole's Twitter feed.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:00 am
by Vince
One thing I will have to give Trump, he seems to have let the military off the leash to deal with ISIS. They are taking a pounding lately and we know this because the press isn't much mentioning it.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:06 am
by Leisher
I was listening to Hollywood Babble-on this morning and they did some bit that brought up Trump. One of the hosts, Ralph Garmin, does a Trump impression and he said "Fake News" in the Trump voice. That's a go to line for Garmin, and others, in their Trump impressions. And that's fine because with impressions you need to pick up on something said and run with it.

However, it got me to thinking that while all these comedians, media personalities, and political pundits mock Trump for that phrase and suggested it's insane to think the MSM would fabricate stories (except FOX, of course), none of them have acknowledged that he was right.

And that's the problem. How can anyone claim they're being "unbiased" or even remotely logical or impartial if they refuse to accept that not everything a person from the opposite side of the political spectrum says or does is wrong?

If all you do is attack, your words carry no weight. Your opinion is irrelevant.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:12 am
by GORDON
Been saying for years this tactic is genius because they simultaneously think they are right about everything their side tells them to believe, and they think anyone who disagrees is a subhuman moron not deserving of an opinion.

I don't think that can be fixed any more. We aren't willing to do what needs to be done to pull so many millions of heads from asses. We're going to limp along until we can't any more, then it all goes to shit.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:55 am
by Leisher
Comey leaked classified materials.

It was during an attempt on discrediting Trump though, so I'm sure the MSM will forgive him.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by Vince
Leisher wrote: Comey leaked classified materials.

It was during an attempt on discrediting Trump though, so I'm sure the MSM will forgive him.
Let's be careful with our terminology here. He took notes which included classified information which shows that his testimony about them being his personal memos is false as some of them contain classified intel and thus are government property. I have yet to see any news accounts that he's leaked any of the memos that contain the classified info. He mishandled classified information by writing these things down in an unsecured manner. And he should be brought up on the same charges that he gave Hillary a pass on as she also mishandled classified information (which would be a rich irony).

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:39 pm
by Leisher
Third paragraph from the linked article:
Comey testified last month he considered the memos to be personal documents and that he shared at least one of them with a Columbia University lawyer friend. He asked that lawyer to leak information from one memo to the news media in hopes of increasing pressure to get a special prosecutor named in the Russia case after Comey was fired as FBI director.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:26 pm
by Vince
Leisher wrote: Third paragraph from the linked article:
Comey testified last month he considered the memos to be personal documents and that he shared at least one of them with a Columbia University lawyer friend. He asked that lawyer to leak information from one memo to the news media in hopes of increasing pressure to get a special prosecutor named in the Russia case after Comey was fired as FBI director.
Which is exactly what I said. We only know of one memo that he leaked, and it didn't contain any classified information that we know of. Now having classified info in any of those memos belies what he was saying about them being his personal memos. But we can't say at this point that he leaked classified information.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:45 pm
by Leisher
Vince wrote: But we can't say at this point that he leaked classified information.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the article is saying. That's why they're saying he broke the very rules he was investigating Clinton on.

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:53 pm
by Vince
Report: Comey Memos Are Government Documents . . . and Some Are Classified

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:04 am
by Leisher
You still have yet to provide anything about the memo he showed to someone without clearance and told that person to leak it.

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:48 am
by Vince
Leisher wrote: You still have yet to provide anything about the memo he showed to someone without clearance and told that person to leak it.
Which as far as anyone knows, did not contain classified information. I acknowledge that it was improper to leak government owned memos to this professor friend of his. That isn't the same as leaking classified information. Being a government document isn't what makes it classified. The information it contains is what designates it as classified. At this point we don't know if any of the 4 documents that contained classified info was leaked.

A lack of evidence of innocence is not proof of guilt.

Fox & Friends Addresses False Comey Memo Report: ‘We Were Mistaken’

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:01 pm
by Leisher
Vince wrote: A lack of evidence of innocence is not proof of guilt.
Are you James Comey? :D

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:34 pm
by Troy
Sounds like Trump Jr. is going to be the fall guy.