The First Obama Term

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The First Obama Term

He'll be assassinated before he takes office.
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He'll be assinated in office.
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14%
He really is the anti-christ and we're all going to die.
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21%
His Presidency will be a failure of Jimmy Carter Proportions.
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14%
His Presidency will be seen by history as mediocre.
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36%
His Presidency will be seen as a success of Reagan proportions.
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14%
He really is the second coming of Christ and GORDON is screwed.
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unkbill wrote:I thought you guys hate the media for there reporting.
On the contrary, it would be nice to see some actual news reporting from time to time. It's their constant editorializing that is obnoxious.

In this case, I suspect it's Obama just trying to negotiate and knowing he'll be better able to do so with less political blowback after the election. From his point of view, he's trying to do it as best he can. On the other hand it's a bit shitty to not do the best job he could right now because he's afraid it might hurt his reelection.

As to being worried about his replacement, that's just silly. He knows he's not going to be replaced this coming election by a different Democrat, and he doesn't give two shits about being nice to any potential Republican replacement.
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GORDON wrote:No more new coal plants.

"Just eat the higher electricity costs, fuckers. And enjoy your brownouts. Also, we're going to start regulating your air conditioner the same way we are regulating your health insurance."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nationa....hpid=z7
Actually, natural gas is so cheap that companies are already decommissioning coal plants anyway, without any government intervention.

Thanks, fracking!
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unkbill wrote:
GORDON wrote:
That is so 6 hours, and 3 posts, ago.
Or maybe he didn't want to make a decision he wouldn't want to have his replacement to have to hold up to. Obama sure is a bastard. lol
I thought you guys hate the media for there reporting. Oh unless you think it puts a demacrate in a bad light. No wonder I don't stop here anymore.
There is no way you actually believe he's worried about not leaving a mess for his successor.

This guy is easily the most arrogant and condescending son of a bitch to sit in that chair since Nixon, yet you think he wants to make life easy on whomever might beat him in the next election? If so, you're delusional.

Another thing is he's elected for 4 years. Not 3 years and a few months, and then he gets to take a break from doing anything so he can win re-election. Do your job, and when someone calls you on something you've done, tell them you're not ducking issues just to try and score points with voters. That would earn a lot more respect than "politics as usual", which if I remember correctly, and I do, was one of the things he promised would end if he got elected.

People keep forgetting that these politicians' job isn't to get re-elected, it's to server the people. At what point has he done that? All I've seen is 3 years of "Republican's are assholes and stop us from doing anything" (even when Republicans literally had zero power).

In related news, Olivia Snowe is hanging it up.

She says Congress has completely lost it's focus, and is concerned more about politics than policy, and she says Obama is the worst president she's ever seen in terms of getting the parties to work together. According to her, he doesn't even try. But she's a Republican so I'm sure whatever comes out of her mouth has to be a lie right?
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"I haven't changed," she said. "I represent what I think is a traditional Republican… a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense, individual freedom and liberty."

I want Republicans to be that.
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TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote:No more new coal plants.

"Just eat the higher electricity costs, fuckers. And enjoy your brownouts. Also, we're going to start regulating your air conditioner the same way we are regulating your health insurance."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nationa....hpid=z7
Actually, natural gas is so cheap that companies are already decommissioning coal plants anyway, without any government intervention.

Thanks, fracking!
I was not aware of that.
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I do consulting work for a company that does energy consulting, and I work specifically for their natural gas division. So yeah, natural gas is INCREDIBLY cheap right now, and everything here says it will just keep on being cheap for years to come.
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SO how many new gas power plants are getting built right now?

How much gas does one use per year?

How much gas are we expected to produce per year for the next 20 years?
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I don't have exact #s, but I could probably find them...

But: We have a shitload of gas, and we're not going to run out in the next 20, 50, 100 years...
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TheCatt wrote:I don't have exact #s, but I could probably find them...
Put your people to work on it. I want those numbers by COB today.
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I'm not getting my hopes up.
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They've already cheated twice to get this damned thing passed, what's to stop a third time?
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Heard an audio clip last night from the hearings. That woman justice... Sotomayor? Was saying the mandate was legal because the government already does it, like when you buy a car and there are already federally mandated emissions controls on it. The lawyer arguing against the mandate said, "This is true, but the government isn't forcing you to buy a car, and the Obamacare mandate forces you to buy insurance, so that doesn't compare." The judge disagreed. She said her car analogy was exactly relevant.

So seriously... is she a highly functioning retard or something?

I like to think that in their private chambers, the other SupCourt judges are asking her that exact question, after that exchange.
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GORDON wrote:So seriously... is she a highly functioning retard or something?
No, you racist. She is a wise Latina.
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She's a fucking idiot if she thinks she made a valid argument.
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GORDON wrote:She's a fucking idiot.
Statement corrected.
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Is she the one that many wondered if she'd step down from the case because she's already ruled the law as being legal in other court?

My 7 year old knows her line of reasoning is bullshit. She's either a retard, or she's playing politics. Either way, fuck her.

Does anyone else find it amazing that judges run for election in this country and actually have political parties? So much for impartiality.
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MSN - Health care law doomed.

Yahoo - There's hope for some parts of health care law.

I just found these two articles to be humorous as they're both up on those sites right now. MSN blames conservatives, while Yahoo praises liberals for giving the law hope.

Neither mentions that perhaps the Democrat controlled Congress should have worked harder on passing a law that's legal instead of blaming Republicans for proving it to be unconstitutional.
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Not getting my hopes up... not getting my hopes up....
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TPRJones wrote:
GORDON wrote:She's a fucking idiot.
Statement corrected.
Just had a funny thought:

I remember when my perception of Supreme Court justices was that they were wise. Those were the days.

See what I did there?
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