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thibodeaux wrote: I said third world COUNTY.

thibodeaux wrote:It's the immigration, stupid. We are importing literal barbarians, with negative productivity. This has to stop; otherwise, every single government policy is irrelevant.

On the contrary, every study of the economics involved has found that immigration has always been a big net positive for the economy. These aren't the lazy and unmotivated that are wanting to come here. It's hard to get here and harder to stay, only the highly motivated and those eager for the opportunity to work and better themselves manage it. The lazy and unmotivated stay home.

To maintain that immigration should always take some effort, but we shouldn't be making it impossible and we shouldn't put arbitrary limits on the numbers. Just make sure the difficulty stays moderately high and the quality will stay up. That's how we became the most productive country in the world - by pulling in those too stifled in their own home countries to come here and prosper - and it's the only way we can maintain that trend.

The lazy and unmotivated come to the welfare state where they can be America-poor, which is the equivalent of 3rd-world-shithole-middle-class.

Europe is having a pretty big problem these days with that very scenario.

thibodeaux wrote:

TheCatt wrote:

Malcolm wrote: Seconded.

Thirded.

You know what was worse than the Great Recession? The Great Depression

I said third world COUNTY. Not economy.

It's the immigration, stupid. We are importing literal barbarians, with negative productivity. This has to stop; otherwise, every single government policy is irrelevant.

Don't disagree with the immigration stance, but disagree that it will matter if we're living in a collapsed totalitarian state.

Fuckin' A man. Who's more totalitarian than the PC Left?

LA tells the law & order candidate to go fuck himself.

Donald Trump has pledged to begin deporting millions of undocumented immigrants as soon as he takes office next year.

For now, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck has no plans to help him do it.

“We’re going to maintain the same posture we always have,” Beck told KNX 1070 Monday. “We don’t make detentions or arrests based solely on status, whether that’s immigration status or any other status.”

“If the federal government takes a more aggressive role on deportation, then they’ll have to do that on their own,” he continued.

Off to a great start.

The turmoil at the highest levels of his staff upended months of planning and preparation for a process that many describe as drinking from a fire hose even in the most orderly of circumstances — a period of about 70 days between the election and the inauguration on Jan. 20. During that time, the president-elect must assemble a team to take the reins of the vast federal bureaucracy and recruit, vet and hire 4,000 political appointees to help him run it.

Hah.

Thousands of people have made donations to Planned Parenthood in the name of Vice President-elect Mike Pence, an abortion opponent, so that he will receive official acknowledgements from the women's health care provider, the group said on Tuesday.

thibodeaux wrote:Fuckin' A man. Who's more totalitarian than the PC Left?

You know how you ensure prevention of a totalitarian government? Don't give them any power regardless of who is in control. If you think Republicans can't be totalitarian, you need to review some history. Teddy Roosevelt and Nixon are good to examine. The power your side takes today will be available when the other side takes office.

As an aside, shaming someone for their moral beliefs in principles because it goes against your desired political outcome is also "political correctness".

Malcolm wrote:LA tells the law & order candidate to go fuck himself.

Donald Trump has pledged to begin deporting millions of undocumented immigrants as soon as he takes office next year.

For now, Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck has no plans to help him do it.

“We’re going to maintain the same posture we always have,” Beck told KNX 1070 Monday. “We don’t make detentions or arrests based solely on status, whether that’s immigration status or any other status.”

“If the federal government takes a more aggressive role on deportation, then they’ll have to do that on their own,” he continued.

This is a non-story that's only a "thing" to Trump haters.

Beck is simply doing what he needs to do to keep the peace locally.

TPRJones wrote:

thibodeaux wrote:It's the immigration, stupid. We are importing literal barbarians, with negative productivity. This has to stop; otherwise, every single government policy is irrelevant.

On the contrary, every study of the economics involved has found that immigration has always been a big net positive for the economy. These aren't the lazy and unmotivated that are wanting to come here. It's hard to get here and harder to stay, only the highly motivated and those eager for the opportunity to work and better themselves manage it. The lazy and unmotivated stay home

People are not fungible. Period, end of discussion. Illiterate Somalis are not a net positive for the economy.

Vince wrote:

thibodeaux wrote:Fuckin' A man. Who's more totalitarian than the PC Left?

You know how you ensure prevention of a totalitarian government? Don't give them any power regardless of who is in control. If you think Republicans can't be totalitarian, you need to review some history. Teddy Roosevelt and Nixon are good to examine. The power your side takes today will be available when the other side takes office.

Talk about not getting it. It's too late to prevent totalitarian government. WE HAVE THAT ALREADY. The only way out is through Trump.

I'm not shaming you for standing by your principles. I'm saying: it will do nobody any good. Your principles barely got traction among Euro-Americans. They will get laughed at by 3rd World invaders.

The only way out is through Trump.

I don't think he's going to make a dent in the problems you're so concerned about.

On the contrary, every study of the economics involved has found that immigration has always been a big net positive for the economy. These aren't the lazy and unmotivated that are wanting to come here. It's hard to get here and harder to stay, only the highly motivated and those eager for the opportunity to work and better themselves manage it. The lazy and unmotivated stay home.

Did those studies cover legal or illegal immigrants?

I believe every word of your statement in relation to legal immigrants.

If they were illegal, I'd have a MUCH harder time believing it to be true. We've posted studies here showing that illegals are a massive drain on our resources, and don't pay taxes. How is that a boon for our economy? We saved a dime on vegetables, but you pay more in taxes to offset the cost of public services for them. Not to mention the higher premiums you pay in insurance for their health care and because a majority of them not only aren't licensed to drive legally, but don't have insurance.

Democrats want them here for votes and slave labor. If they couldn't vote or work under the table, Dems wouldn't be fighting for them.

By the way, if this report is true, then all these idiots complaining about the electoral college being unfair can shut the fuck up.

If your hyperlink is going to infowars, i'll save myself and everyone some time and just assume it's super, super false.

I just grabbed the first link off a list of whatever article I was in that brought the topic up. If you'll note, I said, "IF this report is true". We KNOW illegals vote. That was proven and covered back when BO won his first election. It's now just a matter of how many.

But on that note, I've always been curious of people's rush to dismiss non-traditional news sources despite all the times the traditional sources get caught lying or being intentionally biased.

Yeah, that "news source" is bullshit, and I cannot find any valid reference to anything about illegals voting.

Leisher wrote:But on that note, I've always been curious of people's rush to dismiss non-traditional news sources despite all the times the traditional sources get caught lying or being intentionally biased.

I like alternative media. I read and get content from a wide range of sources. From Breibart to The Young Turks.

But InfoWars isn't worth my time. They still are the go-to destination for people who think the government false flagged a half dozen school shootings, right? And that's some of their more believable shit.

Leisher wrote:I just grabbed the first link off a list of whatever article I was in that brought the topic up. If you'll note, I said, "IF this report is true". We KNOW illegals vote. That was proven and covered back when BO won his first election. It's now just a matter of how many.

But on that note, I've always been curious of people's rush to dismiss non-traditional news sources despite all the times the traditional sources get caught lying or being intentionally biased.

Still waiting on any indictments of voter fraud en masse. Should be easy now that the Reality TV Party has the keys to all the cars now.