Climate Change (fka man-made global warming)

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Luck has held it off. According to science, I guess.


NOTHING screams scientific credibility like someone not being able to explain why their predictions didn't pan out, and them blaming "luck".
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Yeah... I didn't know what to think about that. When I heard how far some of them traveled to see that bird, I wanted THEM to be the ones killed in the wind turbine.
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Climate change killed firefighters. How abstract concepts are able to assault people is beyond me, though.
Nineteen courageous firefighters died on Sunday, June 30th in a raging wildfire in Arnell, Arizona. Officials responded immediately by launching an investigation.

Doubtless many factors caused the tragedy. But there are two prime suspects lurking in the shadows that will likely go uncharged.

In a very real sense, these young men were victims of climate change and the U.S. government’s gross negligence in failing to respond to its predicted devastating impacts.

I assume the author will be digging up their corpses and hanging them on a row of crucifixes outside the home of the nearest Republican he can find.
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I am surprised the folks at "Living Green Magazine" would come to that conclusion.
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From here.
In a leaked June draft of the report's summary from policy-makers, the IPCC said the rate of warming in 1998-2012 was about half the average rate since 1951. It cited natural variability in the climate system, as well as cooling effects from volcanic eruptions and a downward phase in solar activity.

The hell you say?

But several governments that reviewed the draft objected to how the issue was tackled, in comments to the IPCC obtained by the AP.

Germany called for the reference to the slowdown to be deleted, saying a time span of 10-15 years was misleading in the context of climate change, which is measured over decades and centuries.

Emphasis mine. 10-15 years is bullshit but 50 or 100 is totally gospel? Damn Germans trying to rewrite history again.

The U.S. also urged the authors to include the "leading hypothesis" that the reduction in warming is linked to more heat being transferred to the deep ocean.

Belgium objected to using 1998 as a starting year for any statistics. That year was exceptionally warm, so any graph showing global temperatures starting with 1998 looks flat, because most years since have been cooler. Using 1999 or 2000 as a starting year would yield a more upward-pointing curve.

Reactions:
1) straight up don't talk about it
2) manipulate the data so it clouds the conclusions
3) undercut your data using unverified hypothesis

Hungary worried the report would provide ammunition for skeptics.

Yeah, because fuck forbid a scientific investigation not have a predetermined outcome.




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Global warming needs to be capped and it's human beings' fault.

So says an article from MSN.com which doesn't name any of the "top scientists" or what scientific evidence leads them to the "extremely likely" conclusion that humans are responsible for global warming.

I'd be willing to bet that the "top scientists" on this UN council aren't "top" scientists. I cannot imagine a scientist who wants to hang out with politicians all day. It reminds me of the scene in Armageddon where the NASA scientist is discussing why the president shouldn't be listening to his science adviser.

They also don't discuss how other "top scientists" think we're entering a new ice age.
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John Peale, one of the government's leading climate experts is a big fat liar.
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When he first began looking into Beale’s deceptions last February, “I thought, ‘Oh my God, How could this possibly have happened in this agency?” said EPA Assistant Inspector General Patrick Sullivan, who spearheaded the Beale probe, in an interview with NBC News. “I’ve worked for the government for 35 years. I’ve never seen a situation like this.”

You ought to be fired for your general lack of awareness, Patrick.
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“He’s never been to Langley (the CIA’s Virginia headquarters),” said Sullivan. “The CIA has no record of him ever walking through the door.”

Ah, but that's how you know he was in fact CIA. They wouldn't deny it if it weren't true.
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Ah, but that's how you know he was in fact CIA. They wouldn't deny it if it weren't true.


Ha!

It would have been awesome if he said, "Of course they won't tell you I was there!!!"

Who the hell blabs to everyone that they're a spy anyway? You know, besides Archer...
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Leisher wrote:Who the hell blabs to everyone that they're a spy anyway? You know, besides Archer...
That chick Bush supposedly outted as a spy back when he was president. Everyone knew she worked there, drove there every day for work, etc. But Bush and Cheney outted her.

Valerie Plame?
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Climate denier network exposed.
"This is how wealthy individuals or corporations translate their economic power into political and cultural power. They have their profits and they hire people to write books that say climate change is not real. They hear people to go on TV and say climate change is not real. It ends up that people without economic power don't have the same size voice as the people who have economic power, and so it ends up distorting democracy."


That's why we don't hear stories claiming climate change is real, because 91 organizations manage to overpower TV, radio, snail mail, and the entirety of the internet. You'd think they'd put all this creative power to use and start cracking cold fusion or something. Or perhaps they're actually dumb as rocks because there's way more money in being in the pro-environmental movement, getting all those sweet, sweet gov't subsidies and bilking people out of cash, trying to convince them the world's going to end unless they use fluorescent bulbs and that nuclear energy comes straight from Satan's asshole.
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From here.
Further, their predictions rest on models they fall in love with: “You sit in front of a computer screen for 10 years and you start to think of your model as being real.”
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<s>Republican shill</s> Greenpeace co-founder says humans not the dominant cause of rising global temperatures. The dude obviously sold out to the right.
The Canadian ecologist has a long history of disagreeing with many others in the environmental field. For 15 years, he was a leader in the environmental group, until the group took what he described as "a sharp turn to the political left." Moore claims this shift began around 1985. At that point, he claims findings made by the organization were not scientifically sound.
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I think he's the one that left when they decided to try to outlaw and get rid of mercury. He kept saying, "Um... it's an element. I don't think we can ban it out of existance."
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Ultimate chaos unless something changes within 500 days.

The clock is ticking, gentlemen.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs....36.html
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Next hurricane season will be fucking apocalyptic. End of the world type shit.
The federal government predicts a slightly below-average hurricane season in the Atlantic this year.

Climate change, man. Will fucking kill us all.
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Wow. They must have gotten tired of constantly being wrong.
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