Windows 8 will be hitting in 2012 or 2013, and is being designed as a cross platform OS. Why? They're going to release it for PCs, tablets, and phones all at once.
They actually canceled the Courier tablet, which according to reviews was amazing, to accommodate this strategy.
IMHO, this is going to be the next "biggest moment ever" for Microsoft. If they nail this OS, and can get it out on phones and tablets as soon as it releases for PCs, WITH most functionality intact, they will change the market overnight.
With their market share in both personal, and especially, business computers (not to mention game consoles) they have a real shot of seriously damaging Droid, Blackberry, and iPhone.
Windows 8
Instead they built a bloated piece of shit. (WM5/6, and whatever crap
I couldn't agree more. That's why I think this is it. This is their shot to grab the market back and dominate again. If they don't, if they let this slide, I think we're watching the end of Microsoft.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Details of Windows 8...with X-Box Live.
Based on that article, they definitely taking a big leap forward.
Being able to go back and forth between your regular OS, and your mobile OS (Metro) is...interesting. Not sure why you'd need to do that yet, but we'll see.
Tying in X-Box Live is cool, but ugh. X-Box Live is obviously going to be MS's replacement for Games for Windows Live, and their competitor to Steam and Origin.
Based on that article, they definitely taking a big leap forward.
Being able to go back and forth between your regular OS, and your mobile OS (Metro) is...interesting. Not sure why you'd need to do that yet, but we'll see.
Tying in X-Box Live is cool, but ugh. X-Box Live is obviously going to be MS's replacement for Games for Windows Live, and their competitor to Steam and Origin.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
AT&T apps developer was in here last week and said, "Every, and I do mean EVERY, trade site and magazine is saying that in 18 months, Microsoft is going to dominate the cell phone market."
He might have meant all portable devices, I forget his exact wording.
Still, I have already convinced myself that W8 is going to be a massive failure. There's just no way it does what they claim it will do. This is still Microsoft.
He might have meant all portable devices, I forget his exact wording.
Still, I have already convinced myself that W8 is going to be a massive failure. There's just no way it does what they claim it will do. This is still Microsoft.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
PC Gamer's early impressions.
My first impression is negative, but I'll temper that by saying it's a lot of change, I'm not using a touchscreen, and I think the OS will really shine once you get mobile devices and your X-Box involved.
It just seems like Microsoft developed this OS to move mobile users towards a desktop rather than an OS that moves desktop users more towards a mobile existence.
Seriously, it seems like desktop users were an after thought.
And it's sooooo ugly!
Did I mention that there's no Start button anymore?
If you run several apps at once, say LoL, Steam chat, and LoL Replay, you'd better create desktop icons for them all or you're going to be wasting a lot of time leaving the desktop, heading to Metro (the mobile desktop), then the horrendously ugly new All Programs, and repeating for each app.
So I'm on the fence at this point. Let's see what changes come down before final release.
My first impression is negative, but I'll temper that by saying it's a lot of change, I'm not using a touchscreen, and I think the OS will really shine once you get mobile devices and your X-Box involved.
It just seems like Microsoft developed this OS to move mobile users towards a desktop rather than an OS that moves desktop users more towards a mobile existence.
Seriously, it seems like desktop users were an after thought.
And it's sooooo ugly!
Did I mention that there's no Start button anymore?
If you run several apps at once, say LoL, Steam chat, and LoL Replay, you'd better create desktop icons for them all or you're going to be wasting a lot of time leaving the desktop, heading to Metro (the mobile desktop), then the horrendously ugly new All Programs, and repeating for each app.
So I'm on the fence at this point. Let's see what changes come down before final release.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I alt-tab like a madman. Any OS without an equivalent of alt-tab is terminally useless.
I'm not surprised it's awful. Microsoft is awful when it comes to intuitive and user-friendly design. Always has been. It's made by a bunch of people with no ability to empathize with the typical user.
Not that I care for Apple, but at least that's something they do well. If only we could have an OS designed by a crossover team to end up with the usefulness of a Microsoft product and the snappy design of Apple, then we'd have something that would be worth a damn.
I'm not surprised it's awful. Microsoft is awful when it comes to intuitive and user-friendly design. Always has been. It's made by a bunch of people with no ability to empathize with the typical user.
Not that I care for Apple, but at least that's something they do well. If only we could have an OS designed by a crossover team to end up with the usefulness of a Microsoft product and the snappy design of Apple, then we'd have something that would be worth a damn.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
I'm pretty happy with Win7. I'l wait for SP1 of W8.
I love W7 too, but W8 is necessary for MS to stay competitive. It's about linking desktops to tablets and phones.
I think if they avoid bugs and general shitiness, this will be an OS that people will look at with interest and then start buying like mad once it's proven to work. The leader in those purchases will be the business community.
My problem is that they could've designed it with the looks and functionality of 7, but added the mobile features of 8. Instead they designed an ugly turd that is foreign to the billions of desktop/laptop users, and familiar to the 200 people who actually bought a Windows phone.
I alt-tab like a madman.
It's still there.
I'm not surprised it's awful.
It's not awful, it's just not great. It's very middle of the road. Nothing, and I stress NOTHING, here would make someone buy Windows 8 if you remove the "not yet proven, but very well hyped" seamless link between your PC and mobile devices. However, that feature, and that feature alone, is why W8 was designed. If that feature works, Apple needs to react FAST or they're the next RIM.
Microsoft is awful when it comes to intuitive and user-friendly design. Always has been. It's made by a bunch of people with no ability to empathize with the typical user.
Not that I care for Apple, but at least that's something they do well. If only we could have an OS designed by a crossover team to end up with the usefulness of a Microsoft product and the snappy design of Apple, then we'd have something that would be worth a damn.
Ha! I've always said the exact same things.
Microsoft does NOT understand the needs of a typical user. They usually miss the mark so badly that it amazes me the company is still in business. I guess that's actually a credit to their products and business practices?
Meanwhile, Apple is indeed the opposite. They polish turds better than anyone, but they haven't made anything original since...ever.
MS and Apple working together would be amazing, the only stipulation being that one user would have to be involved to tell Apple, "Ok, you given me all the functions I want. Now, instead of accessing them the way you've designed do them the exact opposite way so that it works logically."
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
No, to open new ones you do, which isn't "odd", but wait until you see exactly how you have to do it.
And again, this is without using shortcuts, which would clutter your desktop.
And again, this is without using shortcuts, which would clutter your desktop.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Ex-Microsoft employee wants to fix Windows 8.
Here's his site.
Another guy's dad
Windows 8 is NOT the worst OS ever, but it's going to be a horrific failure on the desktop/laptop site of things. Nobody is going to want this at all. I say that as someone who makes these decisions for my company, and who has put a lot of technology projects on hold waiting to see what Windows 8 would be all about. From what I've seen, we'll be waiting for Windows 9.
Why is it that Microsoft constantly seems to create products for systems engineers and not for regular people?
Here's his site.
Another guy's dad
Windows 8 is NOT the worst OS ever, but it's going to be a horrific failure on the desktop/laptop site of things. Nobody is going to want this at all. I say that as someone who makes these decisions for my company, and who has put a lot of technology projects on hold waiting to see what Windows 8 would be all about. From what I've seen, we'll be waiting for Windows 9.
Why is it that Microsoft constantly seems to create products for systems engineers and not for regular people?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Consumer Preview Demo
The worst part about this is that it looks decent. More technically inclined folks like those here will have few issues getting the most out of the system, but it is so different from the old way that it's going to really fuck up a lot of folks.
I honestly think if they'd just add a start button to the desktop, and a visible "help" button on the Metro screen, they'd probably be fine.
The worst part about this is that it looks decent. More technically inclined folks like those here will have few issues getting the most out of the system, but it is so different from the old way that it's going to really fuck up a lot of folks.
I honestly think if they'd just add a start button to the desktop, and a visible "help" button on the Metro screen, they'd probably be fine.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Why do they think people want something different from their desktop? It has been 17 years since Windows 95 brought people about to where they want to be. Microsoft keeps trying to reinvent the wheel, but, psssss Microsoft, wheels are fine the way they are right now.
I honestly want nothing more from my OS than to be FAMILIAR, stable, secure, and run the shit I want to run. That's it. If there's a new learning curve then I am not interested.
I honestly want nothing more from my OS than to be FAMILIAR, stable, secure, and run the shit I want to run. That's it. If there's a new learning curve then I am not interested.
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