The First Obama Term

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The First Obama Term

He'll be assassinated before he takes office.
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He'll be assinated in office.
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14%
He really is the anti-christ and we're all going to die.
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21%
His Presidency will be a failure of Jimmy Carter Proportions.
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14%
His Presidency will be seen by history as mediocre.
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36%
His Presidency will be seen as a success of Reagan proportions.
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14%
He really is the second coming of Christ and GORDON is screwed.
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Dude looks rough in that photo.
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Ever see those time lapse things they do with the presidents showing them before office and after? That job takes a toll.
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Even "just the facts, ma'am" journos for big media have to decide which facts to include and which to ignore.


Say what now? That is the exact opposite of the media's job.

The media is supposed to report the facts, ALL THE FACTS, end of story. It isn't their job to pick and choose which facts they want to report and which facts they want to bury. Burying facts is how the media becomes biased, and how they help promote one agenda over another. It's job also isn't to spin the facts one direction or another, or to distort them.

For as much bashing as Fox News takes for its alleged bias towards the Republicans, and it does exist, it irritates me that the left tries to pretend that CNN and MSNBC aren't equally as biased. (And to be fair, I've heard Dems claim that MSNBC is so slanted left that they don't even watch it.)
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Tea Party Zombies Must Die.

Nice air of civility.
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More doom and gloom from the Left
Obama is still suffering from the Speech Illusion, the idea that he can come down from the mountain, read from a Teleprompter, cast a magic spell with his words and climb back up the mountain, while we scurry around and do what he proclaimed.

The days of spinning illusions in a Greek temple in a football stadium are done. The One is dancing on the edge of one term.

The White House team is flailing — reacting, regrouping, retrenching. It’s repugnant.


Of course, as usual, Dowd's problem with Obama is the he just isn't liberal enough. He keeps caving into the Republicans.

And of course, it's not like they're not gonna vote for him next Fall.
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GORDON wrote:Tea Party Zombies Must Die.

Nice air of civility.
Uh...did they all forget about Senator Giffords being shot in the head, and the media outrage it stirred up over Saran Palin's campaign map having a gun sight over Arizona? Remember how they said that could have inspired the shooter? Remember how they said she might as well have pulled the trigger?

I guess that's way different, and worse, than making a game where you get to shoot and kill conservatives politicians...
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They have all kinds of excuses when they are called out on their ANGRY RHETORIC, but I don't think anyone can deny that the left has lost whatever moral high ground they thought they had after the Gifford shooting.
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Ah, I love the smell of rampant hypocrisy in the morning...
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GORDON wrote:They have all kinds of excuses when they are called out on their ANGRY RHETORIC, but I don't think anyone can deny that the left has lost whatever moral high ground they thought they had after the Gifford shooting.

That's the single best reason to legalize gay marriage across the country right there. Because that's the one issue left where they do have right on their side. If the Republicans would wise up and take that away from them by letting it go through, they'd have no more high ground to stand on.




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Evidently The Man is supposed to make a speech about jobs.
After three weeks of buildup, the stakes for President Barack Obama’s jobs speech Thursday couldn’t be higher

WTF? It's a speech. I haven't watched a Presidential speech since....well...maybe since the FIRST Gulf War, and you know why? BECAUSE IT'S ALL BULLSHIT. And it always amazes me how The Media plays the straight man in reporting government BS. "The stakes of this speech are high!" Spare me.

Democrats are already saying that neither the substance nor the size of the package is good enough.

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I'm predicting Stimulus II, but he will never once use the word "stimulus" unless it is to flatly state that "this is not a stimulus," which it obviously will be.

Just a guess.

Also he will accuse tea party congressmen of obstructionism... something about "putting politics aside and do what is right."

Also, drink when he says, "failed economic policies of the past." That implies his haven't failed, and it's Bush's fault. Not the democratic congress Bush had for 6 years... Bush himself.

Unlike his own Presidency where it is congress's fault, not his.

Lileks said this today:
A half-century experiment in draping steam­ship anchors around the necks of the productive class and expecting them to run a four-minute mile has ended in failure. The confiscation of rights and property, the moral impoverishment of generations caused by the state’s usurpation of parental obligations, the elevation of a credentialed elite that believes academia’s fashions are a worthy substitute for knowledge of history and human nature, and above all the faith in a weightless cipher whose oratorical panache now consists of looking from one teleprompter screen to the other with the enthusiasm of a man watching someone else’s kids play tennis–it’s over, whether you believe in it or not. It cannot be sustained without reducing everyone to penurious equality, crippling the power of the United States, and subsuming the economy to a no-growth future that rations energy.

To which some progressives respond: You say that like it’s a bad thing.
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thibodeaux wrote:And it always amazes me how The Media plays the straight man in reporting government BS. "The stakes of this speech are high!" Spare me.
That's because it's not news media anymore, it's newstainment. Everything has to be super-important so you won't change the channel.
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Gordon, that's scarily, palpably, believable. I wish I had the stomach to watch to see how right you turn out.

I still think he wins in 2012.
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I don't.

I think the Republicans will lose seats in Congress, but they're win the White House.

For this election, all they have to do is put up a candidate and tell him/her to not say anything and they'll win.

Obama has lost the middle, they just haven't decided which R they want to vote for yet.

Obama has also lost the youth vote, and a lot of senior votes thanks to health care.

He won't get all the support from the left like he did last time. Sure, they'll vote for him over an R, but I'll bet you they show up in far fewer numbers than last time.

More importantly, he has lost all the "white guilt" votes. People who voted for him once because they felt like it absolved them of racism won't feel that way this time.
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Leisher wrote:For this election, all they have to do is put up a candidate and tell him/her to not say anything and they'll win.
Yeah, right. When's the last time you saw a Presidential candidate that could keep his/her mouth shut?

If the Republican nominee is anyone even close to moderate - or even a little out there but in the right direction like Ron Paul - then they'll be a shoe-in. Unfortunately the current Republican party is incapable of putting up a nominee that doesn't frequently proclaim that God talks to them about those awful gay people. Then Obama would win.
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GORDON wrote:I'm predicting Stimulus II, but he will never once use the word "stimulus" unless it is to flatly state that "this is not a stimulus," which it obviously will be.

Just a guess.

Also he will accuse tea party congressmen of obstructionism... something about "putting politics aside and do what is right."

Also, drink when he says, "failed economic policies of the past." That implies his haven't failed, and it's Bush's fault. Not the democratic congress Bush had for 6 years... Bush himself.

Unlike his own Presidency where it is congress's fault, not his.
It's a "jobs plan," not stimulus.

I didn't read about any direct tea party attacks, but he did basically appear to say the same about putting politics aside.

Didn't read about any Bush references.
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“What kind of country would this be if this chamber had voted down Social Security or Medicare just because it violated some rigid idea about what government could or could not do?”


"Solvent."

I don't have the context here, but is Obama REALLY saying that? I mean...wasn't he a ConLaw professor?
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TheCatt wrote:It's a "jobs plan," not stimulus.
The American Jobs Act


Wasn't the last stimulus called, "The American Recovery Act," or some such thing?
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