Health Care

Post by **TPRJones** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:51 pm

"We sought the waiver so that we could continue to provide them with the coverage they need and deserve," Schroder added.

The implication being that the coverage required by the law that was waived is more than they deserve?

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:17 pm

Obamacare declared unconstitutional in Virginia. Next step is the Supreme Court. Keeping my fingers crossed, but not betting the farm. Some of those justices and I greatly disagree with at times in interpreting the Constitution.

http://online.wsj.com/article....30.html

RICHMOND, Va.—A federal court ruled Monday that a key part of the health-care overhaul violates the Constitution, dealing the first legal setback to the Obama administration's signature legislative accomplishment.

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The lawsuit, brought by Virginia Republican Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, is the first court ruling against the law since President Barack Obama signed it in March. More than 20 federal lawsuits have been filed against the overhaul, and judges in two of those cases ruled in favor of the Obama administration. The battle is expected to end up at the Supreme Court, though probably not until the 2011-12 term at the earliest.

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Post by **GORDON** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:10 pm

CNN says cutting the Obamacare health care spending is going to increase the deficit.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/06/health.care/index.html?hpt=T2

I just keep hearing Unk say, "Stop pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining."

Post by **thibodeaux** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:32 am

The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.

So, in a way, it's true.

unkbill · Post by **unkbill** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:59 am

thibodeaux wrote:The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.

So, in a way, it's true.

What ever happened to a balanced budget law or amendment. When politicians were harping about it I actually thought. "Hey that would be a great thing to happen" and actually felt good about something my government was going to do.
How naive of me to think they would do the right thing.

Post by **GORDON** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:51 am

Welp, the new Congress was just seated a couple days ago, and they have been making big promises to get spending under control. Let's see what happens.

SOMETHING has to be done, hopefully sooner than later. It's too late to say they're ahead of the curve, but it isn't too late for it to be a complete meltdown. But that point is close.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:42 am

unkbill wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.

So, in a way, it's true.
What ever happened to a balanced budget law or amendment. When politicians were harping about it I actually thought. "Hey that would be a great thing to happen" and actually felt good about something my government was going to do.
How naive of me to think they would do the right thing.

They did that already.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:03 am

GORDON wrote:Welp, the new Congress was just seated a couple days ago, and they have been making big promises to get spending under control. Let's see what happens.

SOMETHING has to be done, hopefully sooner than later. It's too late to say they're ahead of the curve, but it isn't too late for it to be a complete meltdown. But that point is close.

The country needs invest in something with a proven return ratio.

Cocaine.

unkbill · Post by **unkbill** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:47 am

GORDON wrote:Welp, the new Congress was just seated a couple days ago, and they have been making big promises to get spending under control. Let's see what happens.

SOMETHING has to be done, hopefully sooner than later. It's too late to say they're ahead of the curve, but it isn't too late for it to be a complete meltdown. But that point is close.

Thought about it. I'm older why should I give a damn.
Guess the reason it does bother me is that my nieces and nephews(Yourchild) are going to have do pay for the bullshit that was going on as I grew old. Not there damned fault.

unkbill · Post by **unkbill** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:49 am

TheCatt wrote:
unkbill wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:The deficit's gonna go up, whether they cut "health care" spending or not.

So, in a way, it's true.
What ever happened to a balanced budget law or amendment. When politicians were harping about it I actually thought. "Hey that would be a great thing to happen" and actually felt good about something my government was going to do.
How naive of me to think they would do the right thing.
They did that already.

Guess it was like the under cooked spaghetti noodle. Didn't stick to the wall it was thrown at.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:10 pm

Another federal judge struck down Obamacare.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic....-debate

A U.S. district judge on Monday threw out the nation's health care law, declaring it unconstitutional because it violates the Commerce Clause and surely reviving a feud among competing philosophies about the role of government.

Judge Roger Vinson, in Pensacola, Fla., ruled that as a result of the unconstitutionality of the "individual mandate" that requires people to buy insurance, the entire law must be declared void.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic....eKpHrn1

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:06 pm

The recent record of the Supreme Court doesn't encourage me.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:09 pm

Now certainly they would not legislate from the bench. That would violate the fundamental spirit of checks and balances ingrained in our system.

DoctorChaos · Post by **DoctorChaos** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:04 pm

GORDON wrote:Now certainly they would not legislate from the bench. That would violate the fundamental spirit of checks and balances ingrained in our system.

Dammit, now I have to buy another sarcasm meter!

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:20 pm

GORDON wrote:Now certainly they would not legislate from the bench. That would violate the fundamental spirit of checks and balances ingrained in our system.

The fundamental spirit's been getting violated like a kid at Michael Jackson's Neverland Day Care Centre for quite some time.

Post by **GORDON** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:48 pm

Lots of businesses in Nancy Pelosi's district are getting Obamacare waivers so they don't go out of business implementing it. This is significant since she was the 2nd loudest proponent of Obamacare.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011....-pardon

I heard a good question today regarding companies that CAN'T get waivers. They now are less viable than their competitors that do get waivers.

Post by **TPRJones** » Tue May 17, 2011 6:04 pm

Interesting to note that if Obamacare forces nursing homes and at-home care companies to provide insurance to their workers, the costs of elderly care will skyrocket so much that many old folks won't be able to afford it. But of course the government will have to provide it, possibly by raising medicare taxes. It's a nice little government-induced inflationary loop.

Post by **TPRJones** » Tue May 17, 2011 6:07 pm

The basic problem behind all of this is:

1) Advanced medical care is expensive and a scare resource

2) Our society states that everyone should have access to all the most advanced medical care because "all human life is sacred"

Regular old-timey medicine is not the problem. It's the space-age stuff. It's going to completely kill our economy if we keep trying to vote that chicken into everyone's pot.

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Post by **GORDON** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:31 pm

CDC: Zombie Preparedness.

http://www.foxnews.com/health....estnews

I like this guy.

Post by **TPRJones** » Wed May 18, 2011 10:41 pm

Nice! Glad to see someone at the CDC has a sense of humor. And maybe they'll actually convince a few people to have scram bags.