The end of privacy

[GORDON]

TSA regional security director James Marchand advises parents whose kids are upset by TSA groping to make a game of it, a suggestion that alarmed sex-abuse prevention experts, since "Telling a child that they are engaging in a game is 'one of the most common ways' that sexual predators use to convince children to engage in inappropriate contact."

Here

Was discussing this at a family thing the other day, and one of my left-leaning relatives, when hearing I had no intention of ever putting my son trough the Gate Rape, "Why don't you just tell him it is a game, and they are looking for a prize?"

Cute, but then when he doesn't win the "game" he is then a loser and has still been molested. Ha.

But seriously, I will not be flying (on my own dime-bidness is still bidness) unless these new rules ease up, and now there are two trips this is putting a "bummer" on due to having to drive.

[Malcolm]

100 years ago, mass commercial air transportation was damn near fantasy. In the past decade, the U.S. gov't has made it one of the most unpleasant, demeaning, bureaucratic, inefficient processes known to mankind. I'd rather take my chances with a pissed off terrorist and his bomb in mid-flight than let any gov't official inspect my baggage or person. If they dropped any & all security precautions, I'd still prefer that situation over what we've got.



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[Malcolm]

Now you can also be assured that no terrorist is going to fly a bus into a skyscraper.

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You know, we Americans tell the folks in the UK that they are living in a Big Brother state because of the cameras everywhere. We may not have the same camera problem they do, but we're moving that way ourselves in a more hands-on manner. How much longer before you have to pass through a "safety checkpoint" to use a major highway?

How much longer before you have to pass through a "safety checkpoint" to use a major highway?

That's the sort of shit that'd have me looking for a new country.

[GORDON]

I said somewhere before... maybe this thread? We are not far from being searched whenever we leave our homes.

[thibodeaux]

Now you can also be assured that no terrorist is going to fly a bus into a skyscraper.

But they're also looking for illegal aliens and smuggled cash.

Again: it's always about the drugs.

[TPRJones]

Illegal search and seizure is cool! All the popular governments are doing it these days!

[GORDON]

Pilots exempt. Air waitresses exempt.

Muslims get special treatment.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/205342.php

[Malcolm]

I'm wrestling with breaking down & getting another ticket just this one more time for the holidays or dealing with a fun-filled solo jaunt through southern Minnesota, Iowa, and northern Missouri. It's a hell of a tough call.

[DoctorChaos]

Pilots exempt. Air waitresses exempt.

Muslims get special treatment.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/205342.php

So what was the point of these screenings? Why are we coddling the only group that has openly terrorized us? If we are to be fair, everyone must be treated the same.

[Malcolm]

Fuck that. Here's how we handle this shit ...
Everyone can start their own personal branch/denomination of Islam.

"Now, walk through this scanner here..."
"Can't. Allah says those are the work of Infidels."

[DoctorChaos]

You know, I was trying to think of something along those line but was too pissed to think clearly.

Your bother in Allah...

[Malcolm]

We just need to ...

A) Have every member of each of the three major western religions become a member in every other one.

or

B) Organize all three under one mega-faith. Hell, there's already a goddamn good foundation there.

[GORDON]

The TSA is backing down, realizes they crossed the line with the scanners.

Just kidding. The government is buying them a bunch more.

http://www.libertycentral.org/house-s....2010-12

[GORDON]

Pilots exempt. Air waitresses exempt.

Muslims get special treatment.

Mexicans exempt.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010....be.html

[TheCatt]

Gordon, those people are mis-understanding and therefore mis-reporting what is happening.

The trusted traveler program is for customs, not for airport security. These people get expedited pass through customs, although may still be called out for additional screenings when entering the country. It also applies to land traffic through borders, etc. It's a trade/business thing.

[TheCatt]

This is the program referred to.

[GORDON]

Hey look they stole my thread title.

http://www.cnn.com/2010....pt=Sbin

[thibodeaux]

Random thought. You sometimes see people defending the gropers, saying something like, "They are just doing their job."

Well, no, they're NOT. Their job, I would assume, is to make airline travel more secure. The gropers, however, have no idea how to do that. So they create procedures, claim those procedures promote security, and then FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE BRAINLESSLY. They are confusing MEANS with ENDS. Their job, which is the ends, is security. Groping is an alleged means.

It's like a quarterback throwing an interception, then saying, "We called a play and it's not my fault a defender was there instead of a receiver. I did my job."

WRONG. Your job is to win the game, not mindlessly follow plays.

[unkbill]

On that note at a family gathering my sister brought up that Islraelly airports have people that talk to people. Highly trained like the guy on true lies. Look for oddities in manors and the like. It takes people alot to be good liars. And if the plot has more than one person in on it how likely is it that they could all be that good.
I like the idea. Nothing intrusive about someone asking you some questions. I bet they come up with some duzzies. How was your day? Followed by Do you like apples?

[thibodeaux]

Yeah. I think the problem there is that there is one only one real airport in Israel.

Plus our government is constitutionally required to hire retarded citizens, or something.