The First Obama Term
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DoctorChaos
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Report on why the Nigerian Ralph Wiggum got through our system that we pump BILLIONS of dollars into.
Short version : Everybody, everywhere fucked up in every way.
Long version/speculation : Will be used as fodder to "overhaul" more airport security procedures.
Edited By Malcolm on 1274281528
Short version : Everybody, everywhere fucked up in every way.
Long version/speculation : Will be used as fodder to "overhaul" more airport security procedures.
Edited By Malcolm on 1274281528
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
This is interesting.
The timing more than anything in that all this stuff with Arizona is going on.
Arizona passed their law because the feds weren't doing anything about illegals, the Dems bash that law, polls show actual citizens (voters) like it, and now this move.
I don't see how this is anything but a loss for the Dems and Obama. Arizona forced him to get off his ass, and if the Dems support it, they look like hypocrites to the Mexican-Americans that can vote.
The timing more than anything in that all this stuff with Arizona is going on.
Arizona passed their law because the feds weren't doing anything about illegals, the Dems bash that law, polls show actual citizens (voters) like it, and now this move.
I don't see how this is anything but a loss for the Dems and Obama. Arizona forced him to get off his ass, and if the Dems support it, they look like hypocrites to the Mexican-Americans that can vote.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Obama asking Republicans for help in passing his agenda.
Ignore how the MSM tries to cover up Obama's reason for visiting by suggesting the whole article is nothing more than Republicans bashing Obama.
They, of course, buried the best part in the last two paragraphs:
Unbiased journalism my ass.
Ignore how the MSM tries to cover up Obama's reason for visiting by suggesting the whole article is nothing more than Republicans bashing Obama.
They, of course, buried the best part in the last two paragraphs:
He questioned "the audacity" of Obama's asking for Republican help Tuesday after bipartisan talks on financial reform broke down and his landmark health-care bill passed solely on Democratic votes.
"My question is again: How can you reconcile that duplicity? You say that, but then the big issues have been constructed in such a way to absolutely be partisan," Corker said. "How can you come in on a Tuesday after [the financial bill vote]? . . . It was odd to me."
Unbiased journalism my ass.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"My question is again: How can you reconcile that duplicity?
The way I see it you man up and try. If you don't try you are part of the problem not the solution. If you don't try it is playing politics as usual. Same shit both parties trying to fuck one another while this country swirls down the sewer.
The way I see it you man up and try. If you don't try you are part of the problem not the solution. If you don't try it is playing politics as usual. Same shit both parties trying to fuck one another while this country swirls down the sewer.
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
"My question is again: How can you reconcile that duplicity?
The way I see it you man up and try. If you don't try you are part of the problem not the solution. If you don't try it is playing politics as usual. Same shit both parties trying to fuck one another while this country swirls down the sewer.
So even though he's been and continues to be a complete asshole to them, refusing to include them in things, going around them on votes, mocking them openly in private and public, blaming them for everything wrong with the country, etc.
THEY need to "man up and try" to pass HIS agenda so he can promote it for his toads in November or they're "part of the problem"? Even though they completely disagree with his agenda of handouts and anti-capitalism?
Really?
How about considering those forgotten people in all of this, the voters, who according to all polls didn't want health care, don't think Congress is worth a damn, don't think Obama is doing a good job, and overwhelmingly don't think the country is on the right track? Don't you think someone should be protecting their interests and standing up to Obama and the Dems and their wild spending spree?
These elected officials are our representatives, not our rulers.
Unk, I'm just trying to point out that if a man did you wrong multiple times over, blamed you for your troubles to anyone who would listen, etc. How likely would you be to give him a favor when asked, knowing that he's still going to bad mouth you and take credit for any good things that come from your favor? Meanwhile, your family is taking it in the shorts.
Be honest, you most likely wouldn't bend over backwards for the guy, so why do you think the Republicans should?
And in case you've forgotten, when the Republicans had control of Congress like the Dems do now, the Dems refused to work with them on any and all issues. they walk out of meetings, blast the Republicans for not attempting to work with them, etc. Meanwhile, word from circles in the know in DC were saying that while the Republicans were attempting an ill thought out strategy of full bipartisanship, the Dems' strategy was to demand all their concession be met on all issues to prevent the Republicans from getting anything done. The Dems' plan worked.
So again, you think the Republicans should "man up and try" even though the Dems didn't?
Don't you think that maybe you're being a bit unfair to the Republicans? Don't you think Obama and the Dems could probably back off on some of their agenda a bit to promote bipartisanship? After all Unk, right now they have all the power. Isn't bipartisanship really completely up to them at this point?
Unk, I wanted to add that I hope you know I'm not picking on you or attacking you (because I responded to another of your postings elsewhere too). I just want both sides to be held to the same standard. And I might be in a bit of a argumentative mood this morning...
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Yes if they want my respect and possible a vote, Yes. And not to just pass his agenda. I do remember him offering to sit down with them to discuss issues. Maybe getting some of there issues in with other bills. Do something good for this country for a change. Instead of taking care of there own asses.Leisher wrote:THEY need to "man up and try" to pass HIS agenda so he can promote it for his toads in November or they're "part of the problem"? Even though they completely disagree with his agenda of handouts and anti-capitalism?
Really?
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
From the polls I have seen 50% want and 50% don't want health care. That is not a majority of people.Leisher wrote:How about considering those forgotten people in all of this, the voters, who according to all polls didn't want health care, don't think Congress is worth a damn, don't think Obama is doing a good job, and overwhelmingly don't think the country is on the right track? Don't you think someone should be protecting their interests and standing up to Obama and the Dems and their wild spending spree?
I believe the wild spending spree started under and was endorsed by Bush to help bail out Wall street.
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
Yes if they want my respect and possible a vote, Yes. And not to just pass his agenda.
But again I have to ask, why hate them for doing more (in a good way) than the Dems did back when they were in the same position?
I do remember him offering to sit down with them to discuss issues.
Per everyone on both sides of the aisle, that's been all lip service for the cameras. You can't ask to sit down with someone and in the same breath say "We're going to pass this with or without you."
Maybe getting some of there issues in with other bills.
Kind of like how the health care bill is LOADED with favors for all the Dems who voted for it?
Do something good for this country for a change. Instead of taking care of there own asses.
And again, I hope you're not just pointing to the Republicans there. They're the minority with no power. If things are failing and not getting done, it's not because of them.
And for the record, things are failing and not getting done.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Unfair no. Pissed off yes. That goes for the Dems also. Now that he is in I have stuck my hopes on change. So much so that I am thinking of voting the POP. Pissed Off People. Come November if you are an incumbent I won't vote for you. Be it Dem or Rep. Boot the assholes out. Some new blood. And in 2 years if shit hasn't changed just keep changing people until a group of them can actually knuckle down and maybe do something good for this country.Leisher wrote:Don't you think that maybe you're being a bit unfair to the Republicans? Don't you think Obama and the Dems could probably back off on some of their agenda a bit to promote bipartisanship? After all Unk, right now they have all the power. Isn't bipartisanship really completely up to them at this point?
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
No offense takin. Just stating my opinion that is different from you.Leisher wrote:Unk, I wanted to add that I hope you know I'm not picking on you or attacking you (because I responded to another of your postings elsewhere too). I just want both sides to be held to the same standard. And I might be in a bit of a argumentative mood this morning...
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
The hits just keep on coming ...
Hillary proves she knows less than nothing about economics.
That's pretty much up there with Nixon's, "By definition, if the president does something ... it isn't illegal," reasoning.
Climate quandary.
There's been this pesky oil spill in the Gulf for a bit. Turns out that's bad news for anyone that wants to pass an energy bill involving domestic off-shore drilling. You can either maintain the "tough" stance on drilling which will cost cash in future fuel imports or give the go-ahead to more drilling, which makes you look irresponsible.
Dance, monkey, dance. Haha.
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Hillary proves she knows less than nothing about economics.
"Brazil has the highest tax-to-GDP rate in the Western Hemisphere and guess what -- it's growing like crazy. And the rich are getting richer, but they're pulling people out of poverty," she said. "There is a certain formula there that used to work for us until we abandoned it, to our regret in my opinion."
That's pretty much up there with Nixon's, "By definition, if the president does something ... it isn't illegal," reasoning.
Climate quandary.
There's been this pesky oil spill in the Gulf for a bit. Turns out that's bad news for anyone that wants to pass an energy bill involving domestic off-shore drilling. You can either maintain the "tough" stance on drilling which will cost cash in future fuel imports or give the go-ahead to more drilling, which makes you look irresponsible.
Dance, monkey, dance. Haha.
Edited By Malcolm on 1275061735
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I was going to post this in the oil spill thread, but it's more Obama news than oil spill news.
One of the biggest, if not THE biggest, obstacle to cleaning up the oil spill? President Obama.
Why? Because of politics. He won't move fast to get things done or accept help from foreign experts and equipment because it upsets our unions.
It gets worse. Read the last two paragraphs of the article.
In two years, I think it's possible that he's already surpassed Carter in the "Worst President Ever" category.
One of the biggest, if not THE biggest, obstacle to cleaning up the oil spill? President Obama.
Why? Because of politics. He won't move fast to get things done or accept help from foreign experts and equipment because it upsets our unions.
It gets worse. Read the last two paragraphs of the article.
In two years, I think it's possible that he's already surpassed Carter in the "Worst President Ever" category.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell