The First Obama Term

[Malcolm]

I'm sure the dudes that lived thru Pearl Harbor didn't freak out every time they saw boats & planes again.

Maybe not, but they did when they saw Japanese.

And I'm sure they freaked out when they saw a plane looking like it was making a straffing run.

In '45, when the war ended & the soldiers came home, they didn't cower in fear every time a Japanese dude walked by them on the street. Come on.

[GORDON]

Ah, you're suggesting the idea of another 747 crashing in buildings is impossible.

[Malcolm]

Ah, you're suggesting the idea of another 747 crashing in buildings is impossible.

I'm suggesting they all feel scared, but either (i) no one wants to put the energy into making sure they don't feel scared (ii) doesn't know where the fuck to start. Cos yeah, it's possible, it's been possible for years. Still pretty fucking easy to fuck w\ an aircraft if you put your mind to it. What's amazing is that apparently not enough people want to make it a priority to prevent such shyte. I'm sure you've personally linked to enough "the TSA done fucked up" articles. This is the best we can do w\ our current resources, really? That's not "prevent," that's "encourage."

[GORDON]

Ah, you're suggesting the idea of another 747 crashing in buildings is impossible.

I'm suggesting they all feel scared, but either (i) no one wants to put the energy into making sure they don't feel scared (ii) doesn't know where the fuck to start. Cos yeah, it's possible, it's been possible for years. Still pretty fucking easy to fuck w\ an aircraft if you put your mind to it. What's amazing is that apparently not enough people want to make it a priority to prevent such shyte. I'm sure you've personally linked to enough "the TSA done fucked up" articles. This is the best we can do w\ our current resources, really? That's not "prevent," that's "encourage."

Well, I heard Obama re-banned guns in the cockpit. Can't trust those pilots. I don't really feel safer knowing that.

[Malcolm]

Ease of fucking w\ a plane in '01 : easy.
Ease of fucking w\ a plane in '09 : easy.

If people really thought another plane might hit, that second "easy" wouldn't be there.

[Vince]

I'm sure the dudes that lived thru Pearl Harbor didn't freak out every time they saw boats & planes again.

Maybe not, but they did when they saw Japanese.

And I'm sure they freaked out when they saw a plane looking like it was making a straffing run.

In '45, when the war ended & the soldiers came home, they didn't cower in fear every time a Japanese dude walked by them on the street. Come on.

Actually, I worked w/ a vietnam vet that would get really agitated whenever he was in the same room as an Asian.

But soldiers and civilians are two different things. A better analogy would be to force a group of people that had survived a plane crash onto a DC-9 and taxi them down a runway and see who freaks out.

[Malcolm]

WWII & 'Nam are completely different things.

[GORDON]

Looove to put Malcolm in a room with a bunch of New Yorkers and have him explain to them why their paranoia is irrational.

[Malcolm]

Looove to put Malcolm in a room with a bunch of New Yorkers and have him explain to them why their paranoia is irrational.

Paranoia's perfectly rational.

What blows my mind is how this same mob of indignant folk voted into office the leaders than made security a joke to begin w\. I don't understand how you can support incompetents & then righteously bitch about them when they suck.

[GORDON]

Whoa, the AP is starting to hit Obama, hard.

http://bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1169822

Obamas take a walk, holding hands in the evening
By Associated Press
Sunday, May 3, 2009

WASHINGTON — The first couple took full advantage of the cool spring night.

After a date night out on Saturday evening, President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama decided to take a stroll when their motorcade arrived back at the White House.

So they began walking on the driveway of the White House South Lawn while holding hands. First they passed the West Wing, then their children’s swing set. They kept walking, swinging their hands together.

There were no Secret Service agents right behind them — the agents stood off, in one of the rare moments that the Obamas had private space outside the White House walls.

As the Obamas walked behind shrubbery and out of sight, the unscripted moment left reporters guessing where they were going. To the vegetable garden? The basketball court? No final word, but they eventually came back the same way from where they started, rounding out their 8-minute walk.

[TPRJones]

So, Obama's a rapid fire guy (*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*), is that the story?

[Vince]

As the Obamas walked behind shrubbery and out of sight, the unscripted moment left reporters guessing where they were going.

And we know this is unscripted why?

Whenever the press starts talking about "unscripted", I start looking for the man behind the curtain.

[Malcolm]

Time to jack up taxes, but only if you're a corporation.

Obama also would shift the burden of proof to individuals when the IRS alleges assets are being hidden in certain offshore bank accounts, the White House said in a statement.

Innocent till proven guilty. Let's hear it for democracy ... freedom & justice for all, unless you own a biz, then you're getting reamed.

[TPRJones]

Time to jack up taxes, but only if you're a corporation.

Which is nearly the same thing as taxing the consumer directly. Prices go up to cover the new costs. It's not like the money corporations have come from some magical money hole. They get it from their customers.

But then the customers just see higher prices and blame corporations, instead of who's really at fault for it: the government.

[GORDON]

As the Obamas walked behind shrubbery and out of sight, the unscripted moment left reporters guessing where they were going.

And we know this is unscripted why?

Whenever the press starts talking about "unscripted", I start looking for the man behind the curtain.

I don't need it to go even as far as that...

Was just commenting on the cocoa butter handjobs the press is going to be giving Obama, no matter what.

[GORDON]

You have to admit, it would be easier to stay seated as to have a shorter trip when it is time to go to their knees and service him.

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[GORDON]

Whew, Obama taking aim at companies that offshore to tax havens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009....al-home

Large multinational companies like Microsoft, General Electric and Cisco Systems have been bracing for such an initiative from the Obama administration. Critics of the approach say that it could lead not to the administration’s hoped-for repatriation of taxes but rather to job losses or higher prices as companies try to compensate for a greater tax burden.

Martin Regalia, chief economist of the United States Chamber of Commerce, challenged the administration’s reasoning.

“The United States is the only major industrialized country which double-taxes the overseas earnings of our companies,” he said in a statement. By limiting companies’ ability to defer tax payments, he said, “you limit the ability of U.S. companies to compete, you impede growth in the U.S. economy, and you cause the loss of jobs — both at the companies directly impacted and companies in their supply chains.”

Thank goodness those evil corporations will pay more taxes.

Except, wait, corporations don't pay tax, people do through increased prices. So cool, a stealth tax increase on everyone.

Hope! Change! I feel my life getting better already!



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[Vince]

I don't need it to go even as far as that...

Was just commenting on the cocoa butter handjobs the press is going to be giving Obama, no matter what.

Well that's a given

[GORDON]

I just can't get over how hard the MSM is being on Obama.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news....nt.html

President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden took a short -- but wholly noticeable -- motorcade ride from the White House to Virginia and pulled into a small, independent burger joint called Ray's Hell Burger.

The two leaders waited in line and then went right up to the counter where the meat was being grilled and ordered.

What did they order?

"I'll have a swiss cheese burger with jalapeno peppers and ketchup," Biden said to the cashier. "Do you put the ketchup on it or do we do that ourselves?"

For the president?

"I'm going to have a basic cheddar cheese burger, medium well, with mustard," Obama said. "Do you have spicy mustard? I'll take that."

The president then asked about some fries.

"Are your fries pretty good? Can you vouch for your fries?" he asked.

Unfortunately, Ray's doesn't serve fries. But they had some cheesy tater puffs, so the duo got an order of those.

To drink, Biden got a root beer and Obama a bottle of water.

And I thought they were hard on Bush. I take it all back... the MSM will rip anyone apart, not just republicans.

[GORDON]

Obama: interest = tax

http://www.foxnews.com/politic....ve-ball