Climate Change (fka man-made global warming)
Eh, overhunting/overfishing seems to be a result of stupidity more than anything else. And we've killed numerous species in the name of progress or cos they got in the way. I just consider that one species encroaching on another's turf successfully. But yeah, we've probably hunted a few things just cos we thought they needed to be wiped off the planet.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
All things being said, how many species has man killed? How many went extinct without any help from man whatsoever?GORDON wrote:Like Polio.
"A" for effort, anyway.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
No... no... there is an all-pervasive Earth-Presence named Gaia, and She created humans as a way to understand herself... so technically, man doesn't kill anything. It's all part of Gaia's plan and humanity is just a puppet in the overall scheme of things.
- BTW, I didn't mean '"A" for effort' toward you, I meant that we get an "A" for effort for "eradicating" polio, because I think it may be popping up again due to hippie parents not getting their kids innoculated over autism fears.
- BTW, I didn't mean '"A" for effort' toward you, I meant that we get an "A" for effort for "eradicating" polio, because I think it may be popping up again due to hippie parents not getting their kids innoculated over autism fears.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Man has directly wiped out a few dozen species, if you discount the differences between the Blue Spotted Blind Cave Lizard and the Teal Spotted Bline Cave Lizard and crap like that.Malcolm wrote:All things being said, how many species has man killed? How many went extinct without any help from man whatsoever?
Nature has wiped out many many many many many many more. Far more species were extint before we ever came along than are around currently. It's a natural byproduct of evolution, after all.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages....id=1770
But the argument is over. We're past the point of no return. The consensus agrees. Please buy Carbon Credits.
DUH......... YA THINK???
"Recent human history" meaning the last 10 or 100 years, of course. Nevermind the planet has been much warmer within the last 10k years. I blame Bush and fuel inefficient SUV's that were around in 7000 B.C.
Global warming will be "put on hold" over the next decade because of natural climate variations, scientists claim.
A study of sea temperature changes predicts a lull as traditional climate cycles cancel out the heating effect of greenhouse gases from pollution.
The findings suggest the official models used to predict short-term global warming patterns are too crude.
But the argument is over. We're past the point of no return. The consensus agrees. Please buy Carbon Credits.
"That emphasises the need to consider climate variability and climate change together when making predictions over timescales of decades."
DUH......... YA THINK???
The Met Office believes 2008 will be slightly cooler than last year. But the last ten years remain the warmest decade in recent human history.
"Recent human history" meaning the last 10 or 100 years, of course. Nevermind the planet has been much warmer within the last 10k years. I blame Bush and fuel inefficient SUV's that were around in 7000 B.C.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Former member of "The Consensus" realizes the "theory" is falling apart.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story....00.html
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story....00.html
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Should change the name of this thread to "...full of Bullshit!"
Penn & Teller on environmental hysteria.
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Penn & Teller on environmental hysteria.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Why storms are getting "worse".
You know, it bugs me that places like Yahoo will publish articles like this yet also publish articles making claims that "global warming is making storms worse". Is there any journalistic integrity left anymore?
If climate change is having an effect on the intensities of storms, it's not obvious in the historical weather data. And whatever effect it is having is much, much smaller than the effect of development along the coastlines.
You know, it bugs me that places like Yahoo will publish articles like this yet also publish articles making claims that "global warming is making storms worse". Is there any journalistic integrity left anymore?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
The morning after Palin's speech, the AP had a line-by-line "fact-checking" of everything she said. I didn't bother with it, but I have seen it cut-and-pasted all over the place.
It is amazing that now is the time the AP decides to start checking facts, and they pulled an all-nighter to do it. I question the timing. To my knowledge they've never checked a fact in the entire time they have existed.
It is amazing that now is the time the AP decides to start checking facts, and they pulled an all-nighter to do it. I question the timing. To my knowledge they've never checked a fact in the entire time they have existed.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
To my knowledge they've never checked a fact in the entire time they have existed.
I, as some of you know, have actually worked for the MSM and during that time I never knew of anyone who checked facts or apologized when they got something wrong.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Al Gore fired global warming skeptic. "Science will not intrude on public policy."
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13773
I'm telling you people... when the Supreme Court ruled against Al Gore in 2000, Al Gore snapped and went super villain. The Global Warming movement is his payback on this country.
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http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13773
In 1991, Happer was appointed director of energy research for the US Department of Energy. In 1993, he testified before Congress that the scientific data didn't support widespread fears about the dangers of the ozone hole and global warming, remarks that caused then-Vice President Al Gore to fire him. "I was told that science was not going to intrude on public policy", he said. "I did not need the job that badly".
I'm telling you people... when the Supreme Court ruled against Al Gore in 2000, Al Gore snapped and went super villain. The Global Warming movement is his payback on this country.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Give it a little more time. As more and more credible scientists come out saying the data doesn't prove what they're saying it does and the movement is discredited, Gore will really go off the deep end.
This winter can't be helping his mood much. I'm pretty sure all the people stuck in airports out west are pretty much saying ol' Al can suck it.
This winter can't be helping his mood much. I'm pretty sure all the people stuck in airports out west are pretty much saying ol' Al can suck it.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Yeah. Cos nothing changes popular opinion like lack of scientific evidence. Which is why millions of people probably now think Jesus had a Merovingian descendant.Vince wrote:Give it a little more time. As more and more credible scientists come out saying the data doesn't prove what they're saying it does and the movement is discredited, Gore will really go off the deep end.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
You know all those dramatic shots of ice melting in Antarctica and how this trend really has the global warming nazis freaking out?
Well as it turns out, the ice in Antarctica is GROWING.
See, the western portion of the continent has the melting issue, but the eastern side is freezing faster than the western side is melting.
Well as it turns out, the ice in Antarctica is GROWING.
A paper to be published soon by the British Antarctic Survey in the journal Geophysical Research Letters is expected to confirm that over the past 30 years, the area of sea ice around the continent has expanded.
See, the western portion of the continent has the melting issue, but the eastern side is freezing faster than the western side is melting.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
More global warming news today:
Fat people cause global warming.
This has to be devastating to anyone overweight who actively works to fight "global warming". They just lost all credibility.
The government must be thrilled though since this will give them all the ammunition they need to pass laws regulating our weight.
Fat people cause global warming.
This has to be devastating to anyone overweight who actively works to fight "global warming". They just lost all credibility.
The government must be thrilled though since this will give them all the ammunition they need to pass laws regulating our weight.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell