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Apple has limited games, but they have them. And there all always consoles.GORDON wrote:But if you want a PC for gaming, then no, you don't really have options.Vince wrote:I guess I just don't have the anger over all of this because I have options. I could go with Linux or Apple if MS did something to piss me off enough. But I stick with MS because I know that all the apps I'll want are on that platform.
May be lesser options, but they're options.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
I have to disagree with that. There is no alternative to being able to play all the games that are released. Apple has nowhere near the game selection Windows has. It is not an "identical but differentiated" product that can be considered an alternative.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
alright, fine. What do the games coming out have to do with upgrading. And if you say, "because they only write the games for the new OS which means I have to upgrade", then I can only assume you have a stack of 8-track tapes somewhere that you weep over regularly.GORDON wrote:I have to disagree with that. There is no alternative to being able to play all the games that are released. Apple has nowhere near the game selection Windows has. It is not an "identical but differentiated" product that can be considered an alternative.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Loaded up Quake 2 a while back to try to play through it again, and it wouldn't run on XP. Same with Duke Nukem 3D. And Harpoon II. That's what I can only remember offhand.
Yes, there's DOSBox, but the one time I tried it for 10 minutes I couldn't get it to work.
Darn older games were just too advanced for the new generations of Windows to handle, I guess.
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Come on... your argument is that nobody ever wants to play older games?
Yes, there's DOSBox, but the one time I tried it for 10 minutes I couldn't get it to work.
Darn older games were just too advanced for the new generations of Windows to handle, I guess.
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Come on... your argument is that nobody ever wants to play older games?
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
The ONLY time I have ever upgraded my OS was to play a new game that required it. It required it because MS make them program in certain things that require the new OS. If they don't, then MS punishes them. Game voice was the reason I install Win98 on my machine. Even though, the night before, it worked fine on Win95.
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No, my argument is that old games being played isn't high on anyone's priority list. Not the game makers and thus no MSs. Even among users, they might LIKE to play the old games, but given the choice between the two they choose the new games. Thus they upgrade.GORDON wrote:Come on... your argument is that nobody ever wants to play older games?
Okay, I'm tired of talking about this. I've just excepted that games have a shelf life and don't really care.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Hell, no. I usually play "Wasteland" about once every couple years.Vince wrote:I've just excepted that games have a shelf life and don't really care.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
No, my argument is that old games being played isn't high on anyone's priority list. Not the game makers and thus no MSs. Even among users, they might LIKE to play the old games, but given the choice between the two they choose the new games. Thus they upgrade.
Okay, I'm tired of talking about this. I've just excepted that games have a shelf life and don't really care.
Exactly the attitude of Microsoft when designing Vista and that's exactly the problem.
It's, again, also why many companies will not and cannot upgrade to Vista as it breaks many legacy business programs. Lots from companies no longer in business.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Sorry, but if they're using legacy software that they can no longer get support for and they aren't in the process of moving over to different software, then I've got no sympathy for them. No IT director worth his salt would let that situation continue.Leisher wrote:It's, again, also why many companies will not and cannot upgrade to Vista as it breaks many legacy business programs. Lots from companies no longer in business.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren