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Yeah, this is a tough one to disagree with. It's not quite "They'd complain if he cured cancer", but it's on that path.

Made me curious, so I looked up who killed it originally. Obama did. He replaced it with a program for personal goals instead of competition. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that didn't work. Competition is essential to evolution.
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TheCatt wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:36 am
TheCatt wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:32 pm The private sector lost 33,000 jobs in June, badly missing expectations for a 100,000 increase, ADP says
The country added 147,000 jobs in June, the Labor Department reported Thursday, above the gain of 110,000 jobs economists polled by The Wall Street Journal had expected.

The unemployment rate fell to 4.1% from 4.2%.

Revisions showed that hiring was stronger in prior months than previously thought. The number of jobs added in April and May was a combined 16,000 higher than prior estimates. Job growth was heavily concentrated in state and local government and in healthcare.
Hmmmm
those 147k jobs disappeared.
Job growth totaled 73,000 for the month, above the June total of 14,000 but below even the meager Dow Jones estimate for a gain of 100,000. June and May totals were revised sharply lower, down by a combined 258,000 from previously announced levels
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Who the fuck doesn't know how to count? "We added jobs! Wait, no we didn't, we lost a fuck ton." I mean, college commitments are more reliable than who ever figures this shit out. So, we trust that -258k is the real number?
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Cakedaddy wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 10:04 am Who the fuck doesn't know how to count? "We added jobs! Wait, no we didn't, we lost a fuck ton." I mean, college commitments are more reliable than who ever figures this shit out. So, we trust that -258k is the real number?
The real number is 14k for June, subject to one more revision. Final number for May 2025 is 19k.
TheCatt wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 9:23 am the June total of 14,000
Uh, can you read? :P
26,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs lost in May and June
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U.S. manufacturing contracted for a fifth straight month in July and factory employment dropped to the lowest level in five years amid tariffs that have raised prices of imported raw materials.

The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) said on Friday that its manufacturing PMI dropped to 48.0 last month from 49.0 in June. A PMI reading below 50 indicates contraction in manufacturing, which accounts for 10.2% of the economy.
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Leisher wrote: Thu Jul 31, 2025 2:43 pm Trump is bringing back the Presidential Physical Fitness test.

This I actually agree with as we're a country of fat fucks. Although, I look forward to all the liberal white women complaining about how it discriminates against minorities.
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I don't get it.

Surprised people aren't asking "Do you like fitness?"
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Leisher wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 11:04 am I don't get it.
Grover Cleveland's BMI was estimated at 36. He was fat.
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Ah. I did not know that about Cleveland. I only know Taft got stuck in the tub.

Trump is our most out of shape president since...Taft?
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Leisher wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 1:54 pm Ah. I did not know that about Cleveland. I only know Taft got stuck in the tub.

Trump is our most out of shape president since...Taft?
Yeah, Taft was colossally fat. I think his BMI was estimated at 45/46 at the site I looked up Cleveland's.

Remember when W and Obama were in shape? That was nice. Trump needs to re-introduce the fitness test by taking it.
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TheCatt wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:41 pm Trump needs to re-introduce the fitness test by taking it.
100%

As for DOGE, I will always defend the concept. Nobody that isn't corrupt can say honestly that the U.S. government doesn't have a fuckton of room for cuts. However, go back in my posts and you'll see I said, "But the cuts have to come wisely. You can't cut just to cut." Unfortunately, that's exactly what they've done. Some cuts have been fine. Others, not so much.

The biggest red flag for me was when they gave themselves a 6 month deadline. WTF was that? You have four years. Take your time and really investigate this shit.
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Leisher wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 3:40 pm The biggest red flag for me was when they gave themselves a 6 month deadline. WTF was that? You have four years. Take your time and really investigate this shit.
They also had access to all the GAO's audit data, etc, and were just like "Nah, we'll make it up"
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Headlines are indeed eye-popping. Already at roughly $30 trillion and 100% of GDP, publicly
held federal debt is expected to shoot even higher (Exhibit 1B, blue dotted line). Among
advanced economies, only Japan and Italy carry higher debt relative to GDP, and both have
experienced long-run economic stagnation. With no appetite for fiscal austerity, an aging
population, and a higher interest rate environment, budget deficits are seen staying around
5.5% of GDP. Interest expense alone accounts for 50% of the deficit and is seen at 70%, or
$1.8 trillion, by 2035. A drop in appetite for Treasury debt would raise rates and push
interest expense even higher, setting the country on an unsustainable debt path.
Some market research thing my bank sent me.
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Our government is completely failing us with their spending like an 18 year old with their first credit card, and we're enabling them as voters because we're too caught up in tribal bullshit to force real change and accountability.

Don't believe voters are completely powerless and/or inept? The Epstein client list is a real thing and nobody in the government has any fear of withholding it from us. Everyone knows names on it include presidents (at least 1 for sure), billionaires, Wall St players, and Hollywood elites. The molestation of children, by the elites and for profit, is basically as bad as it can possibly get. Our government is not only withholding the list from us, but refusing to prosecute any of these people.

Pretty sure the Founding Fathers would have had a different reaction to such a situation...
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However, investors were left feeling disappointed after July’s producer price index reading indicated that such a rate cut is far from guaranteed. Wholesale prices rose 0.9% on the month, much more than the 0.2% economists polled by Dow Jones were expecting. The index had come in flat in June. Wholesale prices can be a leading indicator for consumer prices.
That's a huge increase.

Time to fire some other data gatherer.
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Many leaders, some very recently, have done authoritarianism binges, full of corruption and constitutional overreach.

But then those guys lose power, and go to jail, get shot in the street, or fucked by blunt objects to death (Bolsonaro, Saddam, Gadafi)

That is the fate of fascist when the populace isn’t completely cowed.

So Trump knows this, and is getting us ready for military force by snatching citizens off the street, fucking with people in cities because they don’t vote for him, etc.

It’s not just to hide that he was a lifelong good friend with a man who ran a pedophile ring and had him on the island-for-committing-pedophilia nearly a dozen times.

Not just to blind us as he extorts countries and American companies one at a time for 5 million, 15 million, a plane, it just goes on and on.

So the idiot Republicans are still polling they are all on board with this. Somehow. Everyone else is shocked, powerless for now, but ultimately the system should take care of itself and check and balance Trump’s ass to prison when he leaves office.

Unless he doesn’t, and we really have a civil war. Yay.
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