The MSM (Main Stream Media)

[Leisher]

Did you watch the whole unedited video? It was basically the same thing. Just edited for time.

Admittedly, I did not watch the entire thing, but did watch probably around half of it and saw how selectively edited it was. I couldn't watch more and don't understand how anyone could. Folks will watch Kamala for 60 minutes then mock church goers. Same shit, different preacher.

I saw NYT reported a few days ago that CBS might be "paving the way" to settle out of court with Trump over his lawsuit for this very interview, which kind of says a lot.

In other news, Polygon is sold to Valnet and a bunch of people get laid off.

Interestingly, all of these laid off writers went right to their bluesky accounts to complain. I wonder why nobody was reading their articles and why Polygon's site traffic has plummeted?

[Leisher]

While we're discussing the super honest and totes unbiased MSM...

The headlines:


The reality:


Google Fortune's article and look at the image they used. They selectively shot a picture of Trump when he was surrounded by only people wearing black.

[Leisher]

That Kamala Harris 60 Minutes interview and the ensuing lawsuit has led to both the 60 Minutes chief and the network head to resign.

There's an easy fix to this shit: Use a second camera to frame the entire room and put that live on a website. If you're worried about ratings or ad money, make it a pay site. I guarantee nonpartisan watchdog groups and other news organizations will sign up. (You could add some rule that the other news places cannot report on it until the interview is aired.)

[TheCatt]

I'd resign too if I worked for a place that wouldn't stand up to the president.

[Leisher]

I've seen several places ripping CNN for this shit.

Not just the QVC imitation, but the obvious implication that they've all known for quite some time that Biden was a mess and didn't say shit.

As Stewart says, the media's job is to find out the news and then tell you NOW, not a year later. And you certainly shouldn't be trying to profit off of not telling voters something they probably needed to know.

[Leisher]

To be fair to the MSM, I don't think this was a planned thing, it's just the most appropriate word.

However, in their pettiness of always attacking Trump, they're on the wrong side of history on this one. They're ignoring one of the biggest stories on the planet right now. Well, it would be if the victims weren't white...

Nobody deserves to be ambushed more than that racist POS dictator.

[TheCatt]

They're ignoring one of the biggest stories on the planet right now. Well, it would be if the victims weren't white...

Are they?

The footage played by Trump in the Oval Office showed rows of white crosses stretching off into the distance along a rural road. Trump claimed: "These are burial sites right here. Burial sites. Over a thousand of white farmers."

Or is our president still a big fucking liar? Yep, lies.

However, the crosses do not mark graves. The video is from a protest against the murder of white farming couple Glen and Vida Rafferty, who were ambushed and shot dead on their premises in 2020. The clip was shared on YouTube on 6 September, the day after the protests.

"It's not a burial site, but it was a memorial," Rob Hoatson, one of the organisers of the event, told the BBC. He said the crosses were erected as a "temporary memorial" to the couple.

Yeah, it sucks that those 2 people were killed 5 years ago. But it's not a thousand dead farmers, or whatever nonsense.

[Leisher]

Are they?

Yes, they very much are.

The only headline about South Africa on their front page:

Analysis South Africans praise calm leader after White House ambush

I have yet to see a single headline about how wrong people are to protest Trump giving a couple dozen white SAs refugee status, but I sure did see a ton about anyone who criticized the 10-20M Biden gave out.

Or is our president still a big fucking liar? Yep, lies.

I'd call them exaggerations, which we all know is his bread and butter.

Considering South Africa does not release crime figures based on race, you cannot 100% say what is the truth. (Although we all know it isn't 1000+...yet.)

We do know this this very leader Trump ambushed has now given multiple speeches calling for the extermination of the white people in SA and the confiscation of their land.

And not for nothing, we just went through four years of the other party saying there isn't a border crisis, Biden's the sharpest guy in the room, men can have babies, white supremacy is the greatest threat to the world, and other "facts", so maybe they should take a break from calling other people liars?

[TheCatt]

"These are burial sites right here. Burial sites. Over a thousand of white farmers."

This is explicitly a lie. An exaggeration would be if there had only been 900 dead farmers in the burial sites. But there were Zero.

We do know this this very leader Trump ambushed has now given multiple speeches calling for the extermination of the white people in SA and the confiscation of their land.

OK, show me.

[Cakedaddy]

OK, show me.

Make sure the videos are on Tik Tok or he might not believe them.

[Troy]

Struggling for anything but complete political nihilism and hopelessness with the ease the current President has accepted a $400M dollar plane, and continues to hawk things like $1,000 dollar watches. Anyone in the MSM who even asks questions is immediately publicly crucified, loses their press credentials, and worse. HIs party putting together bills so he can have a third term? Putting grossly incompetent people into important positions all over! Just insane shit left and right if I pop my head up.

Any real questions by a MSM person get loudly shot down by bullhorn idiots, reporter spots quickly replaced by what might as well be state news. Tell me how this isn't just breadcrumbs to fascism? Hell it's a fascism bakery up in here.

On the topic at hand. Julius Malema is known for singing songs about killing white farmers. He's a populist national figure who says horrendous shit. As far as I can tell, it's smoke, for campaigning, but not actual fire. He sounds a lot like OUR president. Like, it would so easy to trap Trump in a room the same way, and play a highlight reel of his INSANE SHIT THAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH ON A DAILY BASIS.

So. Back to nihilism. Get myself personally safe and secure in a good way, buy California products as much as I can. Wait for the blowback to finally hit the low IQ, easily swayed idiots who got us here. When the prices double at Walmart, maybe people will notice.

[Leisher]

This is explicitly a lie. An exaggeration would be if there had only been 900 dead farmers in the burial sites. But there were Zero.

No, a lie is when someone intentionally says something they know is not true. For example: "Joe Biden is the sharpest guy in every meeting."

I believe you're referring to a specific memorial structure, as I've seen that meme (and quickly fact checked it), and I would bet you anything that's where Trump got his info, but he didn't fact check it. It makes his comment wrong, but not a malicious act. He's quoted internet memes more than once previously.

(Side note: Yes, white farmers have been attacked and murdered in SA over the years and recently. They're just not in that specific burial ground that the meme and Trump referenced.)

This isn't a defense of your arch nemesis. In no way, shape, or form am I saying he doesn't lie. You know I'm just a stickler for properly identifying and labeling intent. I also don't like hypocritical shit and bashing EITHER side for the same shit the other does is hypocritical. It's cultism, and it is never the path forward.

OK, show me.

Literally, the content of the video Trump showed in the "ambush". Troy confirms below. It's been all over Twitter/News sites/etc. for weeks. If you're not seeing it, your feed might need some tweaking.

HIs party putting together bills so he can have a third term?

He has literally said he is not running for a third term.

Moronic senators writing laws to give him a third term they know won't pass is the same BS political posturing as the ones constantly filing impeachment papers.

Wait for the blowback to finally hit the low IQ, easily swayed idiots who got us here.

Well, that's a bit elitist.

The average IQ in this country is 98-100 depending on your source. Considering around half of voters voted Trump in, is your belief that only people in the sub 99 IQ range voted for him? I know it's not, so you probably need to change your thinking.

What you should be asking is why did the country embrace him again after rejecting him in 2020? Hint: It wasn't "white supremacy".

[TheCatt]

Literally, the content of the video Trump showed in the "ambush". Troy confirms below. It's been all over Twitter/News sites/etc. for weeks. If you're not seeing it, your feed might need some tweaking.

Troy said "Leisher's statement is wrong" I think you misread it. I found support for Troy's statement on the internet, not yours.

[Troy]

This is explicitly a lie. An exaggeration would be if there had only been 900 dead farmers in the burial sites. But there were Zero.

No, a lie is when someone intentionally says something they know is not true. For example: "Joe Biden is the sharpest guy in every meeting."

I believe you're referring to a specific memorial structure, as I've seen that meme (and quickly fact checked it), and I would bet you anything that's where Trump got his info, but he didn't fact check it. It makes his comment wrong, but not a malicious act. He's quoted internet memes more than once previously.

(Side note: Yes, white farmers have been attacked and murdered in SA over the years and recently. They're just not in that specific burial ground that the meme and Trump referenced.)

This isn't a defense of your arch nemesis. In no way, shape, or form am I saying he doesn't lie. You know I'm just a stickler for properly identifying and labeling intent. I also don't like hypocritical shit and bashing EITHER side for the same shit the other does is hypocritical. It's cultism, and it is never the path forward.

OK, show me.

Literally, the content of the video Trump showed in the "ambush". Troy confirms below. It's been all over Twitter/News sites/etc. for weeks. If you're not seeing it, your feed might need some tweaking.

HIs party putting together bills so he can have a third term?

He has literally said he is not running for a third term.

Moronic senators writing laws to give him a third term they know won't pass is the same BS political posturing as the ones constantly filing impeachment papers.

Wait for the blowback to finally hit the low IQ, easily swayed idiots who got us here.

Well, that's a bit elitist.

The average IQ in this country is 98-100 depending on your source. Considering around half of voters voted Trump in, is your belief that only people in the sub 99 IQ range voted for him? I know it's not, so you probably need to change your thinking.

What you should be asking is why did the country embrace him again after rejecting him in 2020? Hint: It wasn't "white supremacy".

I think they convinced idiots to fight culture wars instead of looking after their own interest. I hope it hurts them all for it. It's the only way we'll learn.

It's not elitists, it's not even up for debate. Every exit poll showed a huge divide in voting by education level. The further down you go, the more likely you voted for Trump/Vance. It's not a like for like, but I don't think there's a great pool of didn't-finish-high-school 140 IQ Americans running around.

*On the SA leader - I got a little confusing here - the famous "kill the white farmer" videos - shown by Trump at the ambush - are not the current SA President - but Julius Malema, who seems to have largely been punished and pushed out of the mainstream politics for his views and rhetoric. SA is a mess though, we should not be picking sides here any more than in Gaza, in my opinion. At least in Ukraine the USA was responsible for helping de-tooth Ukraine, and it was against an enemy that has been fighting a proxy war against us since the Cold War.

[Troy]

Like, we're distracting the idiots by talking about anything but what's about to happen.

Port traffic is down in the west coast by a HUGE amount. 30-40%.

International tourism in America is down, significantly.

e: What end game is going on here other than looting the sinking ship(one watch, one plane, one Trump bitcoin at a time) as it sinks? And lighting a match and walking away.

e: people in the trades on the west coast seem to know this. We rushed to install an AC unit this month because every tradesmen we talked to and quoted pretty much said the only direction for the prices of needed parts to go, was up, up, up.

[Leisher]

I think they convinced idiots to fight culture wars instead of looking after their own interest. I hope it hurts them all for it. It's the only way we'll learn.

Nobody learns Troy or we wouldn't still be choosing between a turd sandwich and a douchebag every cycle. People wouldn't genuinely argue trying to justify why they're right to vote for the turd sandwich "because the douche bag is worse".

They both suck ass, and neither is the good option. THAT is where we're all failing across the board. Ds, Rs, Is, etc. We're allowing our choices to be dictated to us. "My cult leaders have said this is who I have to vote for, so they're who I'll follow to hell..."

Ultimately, it's all people's own selfishness and immature need to be "right".

"Did my guy win? Then that makes me superior."
"Oh, are things going badly for most people? That sucks, but I'm doing great, so give me more of the same."
"Yeah, my guy is breaking the laws, but your guy is breaking laws, and that's bad."
"My MSM outlet lies, but yours lies more!"

Elections aren't a sporting event where a voter's purpose ends once they cast their ballot. If we don't hold our officials accountable, even if we voted for them, shit will keep going down hill.

Trump didn't get elected because of a culture war. Trump got elected because most Americans thought the country was going the wrong way.

Sure, some of it was about things like transpeople, which I guess you could label "cultural". I think the permanent mutilation of people and the destruction of women's opportunities and spaces is more than cultural, but to each their own. I will point out that such an issue does cross party lines too as Ds and Rs are pretty united on that one. Hell, so are a sizeable portion of the LGBs...

However, it was the 82% of all voters who wanted the 10-20M illegals gone. It was the overwhelming majority of Americans who could no longer afford a house and were super unhappy with the economy. It was the arrogance and hubris to ignore those things, tell people everything is awesome, run a clearly disabled man, and then replace him with possibly the most unpopular candidate in history whose platform was "the last four years were bad, but I'll fix it with four more years of the same policies."

The only thing I know I know is that we're going to vote ourselves into losing everything. It doesn't matter if the left or the right win. They're both taking more power, more money, and more of our rights every time they get control. They both are gaming the system non-stop. And we sit back arguing with each other instead of pointing the finger at them.

[TheCatt]

Literally, the content of the video Trump showed in the "ambush". Troy confirms below. It's been all over Twitter/News sites/etc. for weeks. If you're not seeing it, your feed might need some tweaking.

Troy said "Leisher's statement is wrong" I think you misread it. I found support for Troy's statement on the internet, not yours.

C'mon... admit you were wrong, and confused the two people.

Literally, the content of the video Trump showed in the "ambush". Troy confirms below. It's been all over Twitter/News sites/etc. for weeks. If you're not seeing it, your feed might need some tweaking.

Then, tell me you're going to fix your feed, since you were wrong.

[Leisher]

C'mon... admit you were wrong, and confused the two people.

Nothing confused. Feel free to head to SA and buy a farm to prove how awesome it is for whitey.

But apparently, we're all wrong and the song where they sing about killing crackers isn't really about killing anyone.

Also, SNL did it first:

[TheCatt]

Nothing confused. Feel free to head to SA and buy a farm to prove how awesome it is for whitey.

We do know this this very leader Trump ambushed has now given multiple speeches calling for the extermination of the white people in SA and the confiscation of their land.

This is not true.

[Leisher]

Adolf Hitler made several speeches where he used threatening language against Jewish people, but he did not explicitly state a direct order for extermination in public speeches.

How'd that work out?

You want to argue this man didn't explicitly say "kill the boer", fine. I concede that point. However, enabling it by not doing shit about it is the same thing. And when you tell the MSM that "kill the boer" and "kill the farmer" doesn't mean "kill the white farmers", you're actively participating in evil.