Windows Vista Gone Gold

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:12 pm

Vista Blog

Gentlemen, start your Bit Torrent engines.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:39 pm

thurrott wrote: Congrats! --Paul

Thanks, dude!

Really though, I don't have any reason for going to Vista right now (or in January... or probably this time next year), other than getting a feel for it to help out people who have it themselves. XP Pro and XP Media Edition work fine for me.

Edited By Paul on 1163022013

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:07 pm

Ditto.

Although, if I stumbled upon a test copy... I might... test it. But then again, I don't need my entire life being sent to Microsoft.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:27 am

15 reasons to upgrade to Vista.
Of those, the only one I could even barely care about are:
#7 - Better searching (and virtual folders). Although, I'm sure there's an indexing performance penalty to be had
#10 - Network mapping/visualization. It'd be nice to see what Windows thinks is on my network, etc.
#13 - Laptop support is better. Sounds nice, but I'd need more details.
#14 - File synching is nice, but Windows XP already has a power toy (for free) that does it.

Still sounds like an "eh" to me.

Post by **TPRJones** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:49 am

If Apple has half a brain, the same day Vista is released they will announce that Macintosh will now be liscenced to third-party manufacturers, like Dell and HP. Could really open up the market for them.

Post by **Leisher** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:07 am

If Apple has half a brain, the same day Vista is released they will announce that Macintosh will now be liscenced to third-party manufacturers, like Dell and HP.

It'll never happen.

For one thing, their home computing side became a lot less important when the iPod sold out everywhere.

Apple also really enjoys pushing their hardware as some of their selling points are hardware items.

Plus, it'd take longer than you'd think to allow that change to occur. It wouldn't just be about slapping on the Apple OS, they'd also need to sell all new keyboards to match Apple's key layout.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:40 am

Yeah, Apple loves to control things. It will never, ever happen. Look what an abortion it was the first time they tried that, and when they let HP make iPods.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:33 pm

I love this Vista exploit.

Post by **Vince** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:26 pm

Saw that "exploit". Someone said they found another. Someone could walk up behind them while they were on their PC, get smashed in the head with a heavy object, then the person that smashed them in the head would have unfettered access to their PC. EXPLOIT! EXPLOIT!!!

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:53 pm

Vince sure does like his Microsoft.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:15 pm

Paul wrote:I love this Vista exploit.

$5 someone's already recorded a techno song that has "delete *.* /y" or whatever built into it.

Post by **Vince** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:48 am

Cakedaddy wrote:Vince sure does like his Microsoft.

Vista has its issues. People tend to bitch about companies that hold a dominate position for too long. There's nothing new here. Vista isn't the greatest or the worst. It's a new OS and I have yet to see any software that's running at version 1.0 with any shelf life to it.

But this "exploit" was just stupid. Actually, what made it stupid was the article that accompanied it that made it sound like this was a real threat.

Microsoft is pretty bad, but at least it's not Apple. Linux had a shot until they decided on that whole "six degrees of seperation" shit from the OS in order for software developers to make any money, thus insuring a perpetual niche market until they either fix that or every other OS developer dies.

People are the biggest fucking crybabies and I'm pretty much at the point where I'd rather they just shut up and die. Have been at that point for about a year now.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:18 am

It's not so much that they are dominant, it's that they consistantly force me to buy bugged software. Why can't they fix stuff before they release it? I always resist the change for as long as I can so that as many of the release bugs get fixed as possible. I have yet to upgrade by choice (so to speak). There has always been something else that makes me install the latest OS. If I want to use that other thing, I have to upgrade. So, I have to buy a product, that I otherwise would not, because of some other third party app that I need. Why can't Microsoft actually make a product that people WANT, instead of one that you are eventually FORCED to have?

Edited By Cakedaddy on 1170532587

Post by **thibodeaux** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:24 pm

"Dominate" is not an adjective.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:56 pm

Dominate, dominant. Whatever it takes.

Post by **Vince** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:27 pm

Cakedaddy wrote:It's not so much that they are dominant, it's that they consistantly force me to buy bugged software. Why can't they fix stuff before they release it? I always resist the change for as long as I can so that as many of the release bugs get fixed as possible. I have yet to upgrade by choice (so to speak). There has always been something else that makes me install the latest OS. If I want to use that other thing, I have to upgrade. So, I have to buy a product, that I otherwise would not, because of some other third party app that I need. Why can't Microsoft actually make a product that people WANT, instead of one that you are eventually FORCED to have?

I don't think Microsoft is different from any other software company on the "buggy code" issue. Hell, over the course of the few weeks that I played Oblivion it downloaded no fewer than three patches. This was on my Xbox 360. A specific and set hardware platform. Yet it was game of the year. And it STILL locks up on me on occasion.

The "make a product that people want" argument... I'd argue that it is what most people want. May not be 100% happy with it, but they CHOOSE it. I think many people aren't happy that in order to run the software they want to run they have to have it. I can understand that. I want HBO, but fuck the cable company. I'm not giving them my money. Same deal, different scenario.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:15 pm

You can get your own satellite dish and buy only HBO if you want to. And if I get screwed with buggy software, I don't buy from that company anymore. Serious Sam 2 was buggy as hell. Don't know if it was ever fixed. But I won't buy Serious Sam 3, that's for sure. Just because other people do it, isn't a good enough excuse for MS to do it with the OS. I wish I had a choice in this matter. I don't. I can delay it. . . but I will have to buy it eventually. Well, unless I want to stay stagnent with my current setup forever that is. . .

Post by **Vince** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:05 am

I'm not saying that buggy software is okay, but considering the scope of developing an OS over a few years while at the same time trying to keep it current with current technology all during the development I'm willing to cut them some slack. I don't think they have any more bugs than any other software developer, line of code per line of code.

Hell, looking at MMO's and all the bugs they create with each patch (in a relatively static environment), MS does pretty well.

My solution to the HBO issue is just to find other ways to amuse myself. Ultimately, that solution works best for me. I don't feel stuck or screwed by anyone.

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:41 am

So my wife's laptop recently broke, so I've been looking at new ones to replace mine to give to her.

Some features of Windows MCE that I'd like to have in Vista:
* Remote Desktop
* Pro-like Networking
* IIS/etc
* Laptop power features.
* Media Center stuff

Let's see what version of Vista I need
Remote Desktop - Business or Ultimate
Networking - Business or Ultimate
IIS - Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate
Laptop features - Home Premium, Business or Ultimate
Media Center Stuff - Home Premium or Ultimate

So Ultimate is the only one that does it all. So in order to get everything I used to be able to get in a $129 OS (new, no upgrade), it will cost me $399? Or a $269 for an upgrade?

WTF? So far MCE seems to be the last OS I'll ever need.

And guess what you can't get on a laptop any more?

Edited By TheCatt on 1171370501

Post by **thibodeaux** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:47 pm

No likey