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Did coronavirus cause this death?
A security guard at a Family Dollar store in Flint, Michigan, was shot and killed after telling a customer to wear a state-mandated face mask, police said.

Calvin Munerlyn, 43, died at a local hospital after he was shot in the head Friday, said Michigan State Police Lt. David Kaiser.
The shooter and a second suspect remain at large, Kaiser told CNN on Monday.
Witnesses at the store told police that Munerlyn got into a verbal altercation with a woman because she was not wearing a mask, said Genesee County prosecutor David Leyton. Surveillance video confirms the incident, Leyton said.
Under an executive order from Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, all retail employees and customers have to wear a mask.
Footage also shows that immediately after the altercation, the woman left in an SUV.
But about 20 minutes later, the SUV returned.
Two men entered the store and one of them yelled at Munerlyn about disrespecting his wife, Leyton said. The other man then shot the security guard.
"This is senseless. Over a mask. Over a mask?" Munerlyn's cousin, Tina James, told CNN affiliate WJRT. "This is not the way to do things right now. We need to come together."
Family Dollar did not respond to a request for comment.
That's some bullshit, wtf is wrong with people? #Michigan

Well, maybe it was the lead in the water.
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Seriously though, it was Flint and a fucking Family Dollar that needed a security guard.

Oklahoma joins the violence on employees party.

Stillwater ends face mask requirements after store employees threatened.

Disney hurting a bit due to the C-19 closing all their money makers.

They'd be sitting on a Mount Everest of money if they had hired ANYONE except Kathleen Kennedy to run Star Wars.
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Disney's stock is weathering this storm better than I would have expected, but I guess the idea is that we're in normal land 3-6 months from now
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15 kids have these inflammatory symptoms.

10 of them tested positive for COVID.

"There could be a connection."

Worst, most dishonest clickbait headline of the day, or did I miss some other relevant information because I stopped reading right there?
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GORDON wrote: 15 kids have these inflammatory symptoms.

10 of them tested positive for COVID.

"There could be a connection."
Worth investigating. UK is seeing some similar stuff. Maybe be garbage, but that's what science is for.
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Sure, investigate the sick kids.

Seems like that COVID connection was eliminated pretty quick, though.
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GORDON wrote: Sure, investigate the sick kids.

Seems like that COVID connection was eliminated pretty quick, though.
Don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion.
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Another Michigander gets upset about being told to wear a mask. Doesn't kill anyone though, so that's a plus.
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TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote: Sure, investigate the sick kids.

Seems like that COVID connection was eliminated pretty quick, though.
Don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion.
Hmmm. Not all of them have COVID, except maybe they do and it's causing other problems and this could be a WHOLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN. ALso, please click the scary headline.

Math checks out.
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GORDON wrote: Not all of them have COVID, except maybe they do and it's causing other problems and this could be a WHOLE NEW THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN. ALso, please click the scary headline.
Yes, it's still a possibility, or a compounding factor, etc. that deserves investigation. The headline wasn't that scary, it said "may".. eh
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We stand apart on this. I'm going to hold to that if they don't have a thing, that thing can't be part of the equation aside from drumming up attention.

Unless they're actually unsure if they have that thing, but that hasn't been part of any stated argument.
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GORDON wrote: I'm going to hold to that if they don't have a thing, that thing can't be part of the equation aside from drumming up attention.
So... if people have pneumonia, and some people get pneumonia from coronavirus, but not everyone with pneumonia has coronavirus, we should ignore the pneumonia that comes from coronavirus?
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No. Treat the pneumonia. We should also not have a "15 kids with pneumonia being checked for COVID connection" headline when they know for a fact there isn't a direct COVID connection in those 15 kids. If they had said 10 kids, the ones who tested positive/antibodies, it would have been a smidge more accurate, but even then you can say "well here's 5 more without COVID with the same thing, so your connection is nonexistent."

It's literally a case of, "This kid is sick, it could be a COVID thing."

And then 5 minutes later, that theory is disproved because the kid doesn't have COVID.

It's so stupid that at this point I'm thinking the journalist got the story way wrong.
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GORDON wrote: It's literally a case of, "This kid is sick, it could be a COVID thing."
Welcome to science.
GORDON wrote: And then 5 minutes later, that theory is disproved because the kid doesn't have COVID.
Not disproved.

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Article stated as fact 5 of the 15 did not have COVID. What's our threshold for evidence?
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GORDON wrote: Article stated as fact 5 of the 15 did not have COVID. What's our threshold for evidence?
Again, people get pneuomonia without coronavirus. What's your point? Also, testing has errors, etc.
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Then you're assuming things outside of the information we have been given. If you think the data presented is bullshit, then conversation over, because I can't produce independent test results.
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GORDON wrote: Then you're assuming things outside of the information we have been given. If you think the data presented is bullshit, then conversation over, because I can't produce independent test results.
I'm not assuming anything. It's already knowledge.
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