Climate Change (fka man-made global warming)

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But at any rate, with enough evidence presented in this thread alone that challenges the statements of many TOP SCIENTISTS who are 100% certain that man is heating up the planet... do you see why I call them crackpots?

Not because they are wrong, necessarily. But because it s impossible to be 100% certain and irresponsible to say that they are.
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Why don't we just live under domes and not worry about it, eh?
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Just saying... "humans affect the environment."

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Just saying... "humans affect the environment."

Domes are expensive.
And I'm saying "Yeah, possibly. But I get angry about propagandists and so-called scientist spreading false information."

You get offended when bad economic pronciple is put into play. I get angry when people who don't know basic scientific concepts pretend that they do, or do understand them and ignore them anyway.
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You get offended when bad economic pronciple is put into play. I get angry when people who don't know basic scientific concepts pretend that they do, or do understand them and ignore them anyway.
The scary part is that the Gore's are spouting both at the same time.

And Al Gore says we only have 9 years and 212 days to save ourselves.
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So, I just saw on the Discovery channel that there are over 100,000 active volcanos on the deep sea floor. If the 286 on the surface are putting out around 1% of the greenhouse gasses that nature adds to the mix, then those should increase that output by a factor of 350. The ocean absorbs a lot of it, I'm sure, but some of that has to be seeping out.

No, I'm not backtracking, Catt, I'm just pondering. I think there's still a lot of factors that the TOP scientists don't necessarily take into account.
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For example, a few times a year pockets of destablisied methane hydrate release a few million cubic tons of methane into the atmosphere in the space of a few hours. There's a few milliontrillion cubic tons of this stuff buried under the ocean, it's naturally occuring, and it's not mankind that causes it to release. I don't think I've ever heard this phenomenon discussed by climatologists.
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For example, a few times a year pockets of destablisied methane hydrate release a few million cubic tons of methane into the atmosphere in the space of a few hours. There's a few milliontrillion cubic tons of this stuff buried under the ocean, it's naturally occuring, and it's not mankind that causes it to release. I don't think I've ever heard this phenomenon discussed by climatologists.

That's the current leading theory behind disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle. They ran through some methane in plane engines... they stalled. They blew some (scale to size) massive bubbles under ships... sank. And that region is known for its massive methane pockets.




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And that region is known for its massive methane pockets.
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Another top scientist says Al Gore's an idiot.
Even among those arguing, there is general agreement that we can't attribute any particular hurricane to global warming. To be sure, there is one exception, Greg Holland of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., who argues that it must be global warming because he can't think of anything else.


Can I start using the "God made it that way" argument in science debates now?
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Only if you think Al Gore is God.
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Only if by "God" you mean billions of years of climactic change.
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You have to admit that the reasoning is about as solid.
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Watching Mythbusters, I saw an advert for a global warming special on Discovery. Sunday night. 8 or 9pm, I think.
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Uh oh.
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Plus there's the media hype. Last I heard, Katrina wasn't event a Catagory 4. It was a 3 (after evaluating the data "after the fact"). That retraction didn't get near the coverage that the hurricane Cat 4 did.
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Plus there's the media hype. Last I heard, Katrina wasn't event a Catagory 4. It was a 3 (after evaluating the data "after the fact"). That retraction didn't get near the coverage that the hurricane Cat 4 did.
Yeah, funny how the press may have been concerned with the flooding of a city, or something.
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They were digging for that "Republicans caused Katrina" angle.
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Yeah, funny how the press may have been concerned with the flooding of a city, or something.
That was less about the power of the storm and far more about the long-term corruption of Louisiana state and local governments. Nonetheless, some still blame Bush and the fact that he hates black people.

If Bush were really as powerful as some people seem to think he is, there'd be a whole lot fewer Democrats around (and more prayer in schools).
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