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I care less than I did a few years ago, cuz my team sucks.
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Whales like the Eagles.
GORDON wrote:"NFL losing its core audience."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-nfl-is ... 1517569200

This isn't just cord cutters... this is saying that a smaller percentage "FOllow (the NFL) closely."

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Ugh, this is still a false narrative. Not saying they aren't losing fans due to concussions and kneeling, but it's not what they think. They forget to mention that the NFL was at record highs, meaning they could only go down. They don't address how everything bit of traditional entertainment is suffering in key demos. They don't address how the NFL is Microsoft to say, the NBA's Apogee. That's just to put things into perspective.

People who hate sports, fans of other sports, and people who dig schadenfreude are driving this story.
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I watched a new South Park this morning where the NFL was trying to train single-celled organisms to be football fans, to make up for their declining attendance numbers.

There's so much false narrative happening that I'm beginning to suspect the Russians are involved.
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GORDON wrote: I watched a new South Park this morning where the NFL was trying to train single-celled organisms to be football fans, to make up for their declining attendance numbers.

There's so much false narrative happening that I'm beginning to suspect the Russians are involved.
Yeah, I saw that South Park. Speaking of South Park, 'member when all these same outlets reported Hillary had the election locked up? I mean, they had poll data!

I said the NFL is assuredly losing audience due to kneeling and concussions. I'm just pointing out that they're not being honest about what they're factoring into the number. They're not looking at other factors. Take, for example, the Cleveland Browns. An organization so bad that they are making life long, die hard fans not care. Nobody is watching their games and nobody is showing up to their games. However, those game numbers are used in the averages for these articles. Show me where that's being taken into account. When an entire fan base of one team tunes out, and those games aren't "must watch" to anyone, shouldn't it be discussed before you make some sweeping statement?

Until the trend continues, this is more about creating a story to report and wishful thinking by non-NFL fans.

But fuck me for simply saying the MSM should actually report facts and not try to paint a narrative with incomplete data. You'd never demand that huh? :D
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I think your snark is falling flat for me because you're suggesting that the media, extremely left-wing, is selling the NFL as suffering because of some supposed left-wing demonstrations.

Unless you're saying they are just trying to prove the NFL is conservative and evil?

I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

But if the NFL themselves are throwing millions at left-wing causes trying to prove they aren't evil conservatives, then your insight that they don't actually have a problem might be valuable to them, so they stop throwing money away.

edit - Also important to note that I don't really care either way, despite your suggestion earlier that I had an axe to grind. The NFL can live forever, or go away this second. I don't give a shit which, truly.
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GORDON wrote: I think your snark is falling flat for me because you're suggesting that the media, extremely left-wing, is selling the NFL as suffering because of some supposed left-wing demonstrations.
Well, this is my point. You're not fully informed on the whole story. You're here rubbing our noses in something you see the MSM as reporting, but they're clearly not telling you everything.
GORDON wrote: Unless you're saying they are just trying to prove the NFL is conservative and evil?
I'm going to try and "long story short" this...

The NFL has enemies, and always has because it's MASSIVE. Ratings, merchandise sales, profits, etc. are all the envy of the other professional sports leagues combined. They would all love for the NFL to get hurt, and they'd profit from it. The NFL also has political enemies that are left wing. You can dig into everything behind this, but money is the core of it, specifically tax money, and the NFL gets a lot of breaks from Congress.

When Colin Kaepernick decided to start taking a knee during the anthem to protest how multimillionaires like himself are treated (that's snarky) it put blood into the water. The NFL had already taken recent hits due to concussions, but that really wasn't going anywhere. Nobody gave a fuck. Now the NFL's enemies could paint the NFL as a cold, racist, uncaring, and yes, conservative, organization. Old, rich, white men making billions off the backs of minorities and the poor. "When those poor players simply wanted a voice the NFL squashed it! They conspired to not hire Kaep back into the league." This is the cause of a lot of controversy by black fans in particular. Thus, you had some black fans (I know one) not watching because Kaep is being blacklisted, and you have old white guys (I know two) who aren't watching because players are kneeling. The NFL's enemies also brought up a scandal involving its use of military members for flag duty or something. It was and continues to be a pile on.

The NFL, literally, couldn't win no matter which side they chose.

Meanwhile, and this is strictly so you can contrast the story...the NBA, a league that is predominantly black, has rules strictly prohibiting players from kneeling during the anthem. Yet, their lily white commissioner who works for their lily white, rich, old owners came out with a statement saying they wouldn't tolerate it.

Think about it. The NFL is going destroyed for squashing their players' freedom of speech because one guy got blacklisted. (And really that's up for debate. Would you sign a QB who is mediocre at best, and will bring lots of controversy with him and piss off a portion of your fans? Anyone with any sort of business sense wouldn't.) Meanwhile, the same "villains" are prohibiting any freedom of speech from a black league and nobody bats an eye.

So yes, the NFL is rich, conservative, and white. All things socialist left wingers hate. If 50% of the NFL teams were minority owned, this Kaep things wouldn't have legs. (Not even 5% of NBA teams are minority owned. Again, just to contrast where one league gets criticized and the other doesn't.)
GORDON wrote: But if the NFL themselves are throwing millions at left-wing causes trying to prove they aren't evil conservatives, then your insight that they don't actually have a problem might be valuable to them, so they stop throwing money away.
This is to placate their players. This is asking them to stop kneeling without asking them to stop kneeling. They hope the players will stop, and that will appease the patriotic fans who have tuned out.

As for the "millions", do you know the saying "it's the least I could do"? This is the least they could do, literally. It is such a tiny amount of money to a league owned by 32 billionaires that I'm amazed the players were so grateful.
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I had no idea there was such a cabal and conspiracy trying to destroy the NFL. I'll stop posting news articles that manage to reach me even though I actively avoid "news," because I don't want to rub anyone's noses in anything.

Enjoy sports, gordon out.
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GORDON wrote: I had no idea there was such a cabal and conspiracy trying to destroy the NFL. I'll stop posting news articles that manage to reach me even though I actively avoid "news," because I don't want to rub anyone's noses in anything.

Enjoy sports, gordon out.
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Shazier is walking!

Redskins might tag Cousins.

I get what they're thinking and I think it'll work out, but there is backfire potential.
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Best face-crotch tackle ever?
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I could have caught that pass, Tom Brady.
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Right? Did you see how pissed he looked?
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Leisher wrote: Right? Did you see how pissed he looked?
:)

Did you see how poorly he timed his jump? Just wow.
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The Patriots aren't doing well.

Officials to the rescue!
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Leisher wrote: The Patriots aren't doing well.

Officials to the rescue!
And the refs are here... Fucking horseshit.
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Refs can fuck themselves part 2 on that no-call in the end zone.
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What a play!
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Leisher wrote: What a play!
Hey Brady, here's how you catch

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Look at the holding going on by NE's O line. Ridiculous.
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