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God's own neurosurgeon is in charge of HUD.
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I swear they are trying to prove that government is incompetent by picking the most incompetent leaders for every division.
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TPRJones wrote: I swear they are trying to prove that government is incompetent by picking the most incompetent leaders for every division.
Well, if you want to bring down an existing regime, why not?
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Drumpf's son pulls a Hillary.
That’s why it’s disconcerting that Donald “Diaper Don” Drumpf, Jr., got compensated at least $50,000, and possibly much more, to speak at a French think tank whose founders are closely allied with Russia and support its efforts in Syria.
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The meeting took place on October 11 at the Ritz Hotel in Paris, and was hosted by the Center of Political and Foreign Affairs. The CPFA was founded by Fabien Baussart and his wife, Syrian-born Randa Kassis. While both say they do not formally represent Russia, Kassis leads a political faction, Movement for a Pluralistic Society, endorsed by Moscow in negotiations to end the war in Syria, and she frequently visits the country to coordinate policy with Russia’s Foreign Ministry. In December, Baussart nominated Vladimir Putin for the Nobel Peace Prize.
I guess selectively murdering people technically brings someone some peace somewhere.
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Obama got one for most-people-exploded-by-flying-robots in a calendar year. It's wild the things they give awards for these days.
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Another day, another wtf.
I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
I have just as much evidence that Bigfoot exists and he's actually an alien from Mars.
Former Obama deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes tweeted in response that presidents can't order wiretapping.

"No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you," he said in his Twitter post.
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Malcolm wrote:
I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
I have just as much evidence that Bigfoot exists and he's actually an alien from Mars.
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If Dems were smart, they'd roll with this and insist on a hearing and use that to see where this whole Russia rabbit hole goes. I think this is stupid, but the Russia thing has bothered me since before he was elected. And it may well be a big nothing burger.
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... net-214856
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Is that article for real?
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Letterman thinks late night hosts need to be tough on Trump.

You know, like he and the other late night hosts were on Obama...
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Malcolm wrote: God's own neurosurgeon is in charge of HUD.
The first of what will be many, many gaffes.
“That's what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” said Carson, speaking extemporaneously as he paced the room with a microphone. “But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Wow.
“He was making a point about people who came to this country for a better life for their kids,” the official said. “Nobody in that room put two and two together and came to five. Only the most cynical interpretation would conflate voluntary immigration to this country with involuntary servitude.”
What in the mother of fuck does that mean? He literally said "slave ships." Once they were unceremoniously uprooted, kidnapped, stacked damn near like cordwood, and made to survive a rather hellish multi-month journey across the ocean, and got absorbed into the culture after a few generations ... then maybe.

Planned Parenthood tells Dipshit Drumpf to go fuck himself.
"The White House proposal that Planned Parenthood stop providing abortion is the same demand opponents of women's health have been pushing for decades, as a part of their longstanding effort to end women's access to safe, legal abortion," Richards said in a statement provided by Planned Parenthood.
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Malcolm wrote: Is that article for real?
I imagine the author is sincere. Whether his sources are or are not trolling his ass...well, they report, you decide.
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“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
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No, he's still completely off base because it is illegal for the President to have ordered a wiretap, no judge would sign off on that, and even asking for it could get have easily gotten him impeached. That and there hasn't been even a tiny whiff of any sort of evidence; contrary to popular belief repeating over and over something someone pulled out of their ass isn't evidence. The article you linked agrees with this stance 100%.

If you choose to reinterpret Trump to mean that "Obama's administration" (i.e. people working for the government when Obama was President) and not Obama personally then yes, they probably spied on him. They certainly wanted to. But if there were any evidence that Obama personally ordered it - or even suggested it - then he'd be under investigation and perhaps even incarcerated at this time.

If your stance is that you can't read the words the President uses and expect them to mean what he says, then all I can say is it's sad that this is where we are now. There was a time when the ability to communicate clearly and meaningfully was something that was generally considered important in the leader of the free world.
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Some people still don't get how Trump works. He's a master negotiator.

Trump: "Make America Great Again!"
Haters 1: "America was ALWAYS great!" Oh yeah? Then why did Michelle say she was never proud of America until Barack was elected?
Haters 2: "America was NEVER great!" That's a winning slogan all right.

Trump: "I'm gonna build a wall, and I'm gonna make Mexico pay for it!"
Haters: "YOU CAN'T MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR THE WALL!"
The haters accept Trump's frame and assume the sale; now they're just negotiating the price.

Trump: "Obama tapped my phones!"
Haters: "Obama didn't do it! The DOJ ordered it...without Obama knowing."
Ok, but how is that better? The point's not that Obama PERSONALLY did something bad. The point is to discredit the Deep State anti-Trump Haters.

Keep "fact checking" Trump. All you're doing is making his point FOR HIM. It's almost as sad as Charlie Brown trying to kick the goddam football.

Except...it's not sad. It's WINNING.
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It's been like 10 years now the right has been saying Obama improperly used.the government for his political bidness, like the IRS. Nothing has changed.

This whole Trump thing continues to deliver. I love how he says exactly when he thinks, all the time. it's funny and the exploding heads make pretty lights.
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I'm not sure what was up with the wiretap tweets. Really starting to think he does a lot of this so both sides are exhausted all the time either attacking or defending him and it creates the illusion that he's not lazy and is actually doing something (otherwise we wouldn't all be this tired). I don't think this is beyond Obama's NSA doing. Trump could easily declassify the FISA warrant and have it released. I don't think he will, because I think they second warrant raised legitimate concerns. Not saying that anyone did anything wrong, but there were enough Russian ties to warrant looking into things. Trump doesn't want to keep breathing life into that story, so that's why he'll let his pom pom dancers fight this battle for him without declassifying and releasing the warrant.

Also, the Republicans that reflexively knee jerk towards defending whatever pisses off the left would be more inclined to get behind that steaming pile of health reform that the GOP released today with Trump's blessing with all this going on as well.
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I knee jerk toward pissing EVERYONE off, just to clarify.
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GORDON wrote:I love how he says exactly when he thinks, all the time.
I'm not sure he has yet. (emphasis added)
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I feel like I could take the base code for the Eliza AI and make auto-Drumpf.
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