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Nearly 1000 people throw their money in the garbage.

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Optimism?
Overall, the vast majority of bets on the Browns to win the Super Bowl are tiny. Some were even done as a joke, like Chris Hovan's $5 ticket placed at Bally's during an annual March Madness trip to Las Vegas with friends.

"It was made strictly as a joke," Hovan, a 35-year-old maintenance worker in Brooklyn, Ohio, told ESPN. "I just wanted to place the ticket on the wall of my bar in the basement. I've been a season-ticket holder for 14 years and I know that the Browns are going to be horrible again this year."
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Guess who's been scraping the NFL logo off his preseason game helmets? My mistake, I meant to say guess who had the equipment gophers scrape the NFL logo off his preseason helmets. Wonder if he was smart enough not to text them this time.
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Columbus Blue Jackets and Team USA coach weighs in on sitting during the anthem.

"If you sit during the anthem, you're going to be sitting during the game."
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Leisher wrote:Columbus Blue Jackets and Team USA coach weighs in on sitting during the anthem.

"If you sit during the anthem, you're going to be sitting during the game."
What a prickish hypocrite.
"It is probably the most disrespectful thing you can do as a U.S. citizen is to bring that in. Because that's our symbol. All for [expressing] yourself. That's what's so great. Everybody does. But no chance when it comes to the flag and the anthem. No chance."
So you're not against freedom of expression ... well, except in this one case and any others that might crop up in my thoughts at undetermined future dates that I haven't contemplated yet. Douche.
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Seahawks might be planning "something" for the nat'l anthem tonight.

Belichick on Palmer on Brady.
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Malcolm wrote:Seahawks might be planning "something" for the nat'l anthem tonight.
Pretty sure you mean Sunday.
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TheCatt wrote:
Malcolm wrote:Seahawks might be planning "something" for the nat'l anthem tonight.
Pretty sure you mean Sunday.
Yeah, that. Details.
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Brandon Marshall kneeling.
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We missed you, Kelvin.
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So much

Also, fuck the haters, that's my QB right there. Real life and in my only fantasy league!
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Ooooooff. Great game. The game the superbowl should have been.

How can the NFL refs give cam ZERO protection like that? Has anyone ever seen a QB take more head-shots in one game. ONE got called, which was offest (and they somehow figured getting absolutely head hunted had nothing to do with that grounding)
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Troy wrote:...that's my QB right there. Real life and in my only fantasy league!
In what I'll refer to as the P10 (Pussy 10) keeper league...
I'm going against Newton this week. In fact, I'm going against who I assume will be the major div rival this year.
Me:
QB Aaron Rodgers, GB QB
RB DeMarco Murray, Ten RB
RB Ryan Mathews, Phi RB
WR Eric Decker, NYJ WR
WR Allen Hurns, Jax WR
TE Jordan Reed, Wsh TE
FLEX Gary Barnidge, Cle TE
D/ST Panthers D/ST D/ST
K Adam Vinatieri, Ind K
Other bastard:
QB Cam Newton, Car QB
RB David Johnson, Ari RB
RB Ezekiel Elliott, Dal RB
WR Jordy Nelson, GB WR
WR Brandin Cooks, NO WR
TE Greg Olsen, Car TE
FLEX Golden Tate, Det WR
D/ST Packers D/ST D/ST
K Chandler Catanzaro, Ari K
In the catt keeper league, Thomas Davis did some respectable work.
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TheCatt wrote:Brandon Marshall kneeling.
After the game, Marshall said he made the decision after speaking to his family about it. He said Virgil Green was the only player on the Broncos he told before the game that he wouldn't stand during the anthem. Marshall also said he will continue to not stand during the anthem.

"I did it and I don't regret it," Marshall said, adding he plans to give money to organizations he supports. "I knew what territory it came with, and I decided to do it."
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Didn't watch the 2nd half, but every article on the game mentions 4 helmet to helmet hits, and only one called.
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Those hits in gif goodness

First gif was not helmet to helmet. Just a hard hit.

Second gif is targeting. Expect a fine and/or suspension. He's launching himself. Also, please note the face mask penalty occurring in the background.

Third gif is nothing. It's so nothing that including it as an example here hurts the credibility of the argument being made.

Fourth gif is borderline. The defender clearly shifts his head trying to avoid leading with it.

As an unbiased observer, I think Marshall should have been ejected after the hit in the second gif.

Also, in the interest of fairness, Von Miller was being held all night and it resulted in zero flags.
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Outside of the Von Miller one(which was a weird combo tackle, not a penalty), i'm seeing guys leaving their feet and leading with the crown of the helmet into Cam's head. It's surreal.

It's not just that it would be called for other QBs, it's more like if that happened to other QBs, they'd be in the hospital. If it was Peyton last year he might be dead. Just because Cam is tough as nails, doesn't mean it should be totally ignored.

And a flagrant targeting headshot foul offset by a grounding penalty? Are you kidding me NFL? They've been talking big about player safety for the last two years, and this shit happens in the opener. It's all just surreal.

I'm not super bummed about the loss, it was a great game. But it was just painful watching Cam play out there tonight, I like to think he has a life after football that doesn't involve being fed through a tube.
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#1 was questionable, I see leaving feet, I see helmet leading, but he throws his hands at the last second.

#2 is flagrant. Enjoy your ban.

#3 - Yeah, I see helmet contact, but not leading or dangerous, just accidental.

#4 - Clearly leading with his head, then trying to shift at the last second.
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Well, people keep saying Cam is like Big Ben, so welcome to my world. Our QBs are big, so they take a lot more shots and there are no flags thrown. Try playing against Brady every year where you get to watch flags fly everywhere if people breath on him while your QB takes a pummeling. Maybe that's why I don't see some of those hits as big deals? They've desensitized me?

The first gif at that link is a football play. He clearly hits Cam in the shoulder with his shoulder. He also doesn't launch himself. He simply leaves his feet. There is a difference. If we argue that one, put the fucking QBs in red shirts and tie some flags around their waist.

The Marshall one is text book targeting. He, literally, launches himself with a jump and goes right after Cam's head. Again, the NFL will come down on him Tuesday when they typically hand out punishments (or is it Wednesday?). This should not have been offset by any other penalty. He should have been ejected. (Interesting that the guy who took a knee to protest a social issue before the game was the one who made the dirtiest play in the game...)

We don't need to talk about the non-hit that was Miller's.

That last one is incidental. It should have been flagged because the helmets hit, but it's not targeting. He didn't launch himself and he did try to tuck his head and lead with his shoulder. Cam actually made the helmets hit by lowering his helmet.
#4 - Clearly leading with his head, then trying to shift at the last second.
Please show me how you tackle someone without leading with your head. They mean using your head as a battering ram. Tackling with your shoulders, like he was trying to do, (which is terrible form, but the standard for DBs) is legal.

By the way, don't excuse the Panthers. I'm not a doctor, but Cam looked shaken up. I question their coaches and medical staff for letting him continue playing.
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Without that rushing TD, he puts up a very mediocre stat line. Seems like rattling works.
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