You might be able to find some emperor/Vader lookalikes, but eventually someone will notice the lack of force powers, then the big players start carving the empire up, not to mention the various alliance members reclaiming their own planets and systems. If you had more Sith to step up or maybe a thrawn, you've got a shot at keeping the empire together. But that shit would crumble and disintegrate within weeks of Anakin dethroning and defenestrating Palpatine. States that big have powerful and/or numerous competitors that would swoop in. Also, you think the alliance is going to stop its push? Or is it going to get more support now that they've crippled the imperial leadership?
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens
The Timothy Zahn books actually explained what happened in the power vacuum after the Emperor died.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Yeah, I know. I was just pointing out that someone who could actually write did it.
Does anyone know if "Aftermath" tried to explain what happened? That's supposed to be the canon events between Return 6 and 7. It's too bad they hired an illiterate writer.
I really hope they bring Thrawn into the new canon. That guy was awesome.
Does anyone know if "Aftermath" tried to explain what happened? That's supposed to be the canon events between Return 6 and 7. It's too bad they hired an illiterate writer.
I really hope they bring Thrawn into the new canon. That guy was awesome.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Potential spoiler about Luke
I say potential because this is a clip from the show Dinner for Five from 2005 that just happened to include Mark Hamill and JJ Abrams. Skip to 11:30 and watch Mark talk about where he thought Luke was going....
I truly hope they don't go this route because it'll take a serious stretch to explain it. I mean a seriously fucking huge leap of faith for me to believe the character changes in this way.
That being said, there is an enormous good he would fill. Of course, they'd be risking the ire of Star Wars fans everywhere. I don't think it'd be a popular move.
I say potential because this is a clip from the show Dinner for Five from 2005 that just happened to include Mark Hamill and JJ Abrams. Skip to 11:30 and watch Mark talk about where he thought Luke was going....
I truly hope they don't go this route because it'll take a serious stretch to explain it. I mean a seriously fucking huge leap of faith for me to believe the character changes in this way.
That being said, there is an enormous good he would fill. Of course, they'd be risking the ire of Star Wars fans everywhere. I don't think it'd be a popular move.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
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I think a Sith Luke Skywalker is too easy and would piss off the fans unless done absolutely perfectly.
I believe Luke is going to be an a mix of Yoda and the Emperor. He'll walk a path between the light and dark.
I believe Luke is going to be an a mix of Yoda and the Emperor. He'll walk a path between the light and dark.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Ranting from a bar stool...
Luke can't be a Sith. It would betray the original trilogy. Think about it. The trilogy was about his journey and making him the big bad would void that. Also, killing him off would be a cheap hit too. You can kill anyone else, but not Luke. Not the key ingredient to the original trilogy. It'd feel as cheap as the opening of Friday the 13th part 2 when Jason shoved the ice pick through the temple of the chick from the original.
Luke can't be a Sith. It would betray the original trilogy. Think about it. The trilogy was about his journey and making him the big bad would void that. Also, killing him off would be a cheap hit too. You can kill anyone else, but not Luke. Not the key ingredient to the original trilogy. It'd feel as cheap as the opening of Friday the 13th part 2 when Jason shoved the ice pick through the temple of the chick from the original.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Speculative response (any spoilers are due to accidental brilliance on my part and not inside information):
I think you could build a story that has Luke fulfilling the Obi Wan role and dying at the end as his mentor before him. But it would be a fine line to walk to avoid having it be a cheap copy of the first movie.
Come to think of it, the first of each trilogy of films included that element. It's practically a tradition.
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I think you could build a story that has Luke fulfilling the Obi Wan role and dying at the end as his mentor before him. But it would be a fine line to walk to avoid having it be a cheap copy of the first movie.
Come to think of it, the first of each trilogy of films included that element. It's practically a tradition.
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I watched the shit out of the trailers last night. I have more to speculate, so if you don't want possible spoilers, move on...
Speculation:
-Luke is Yoda, not Obi Wan.
-Rey and Kylo Ren are siblings and the kids of Han and Leia.
-Finn is a misdirection. Notice the constant images of him wielding the lightsaber? I think Rey is the Jedi. Not saying Finn can't be, but this is Rey's story.
-This really feels like a remake of A New Hope. I pray it isn't.
-Han dies.
-Chewie might die too. I hope not. (If someone sees this before me, please let me know this spoiler because I have a daughter who LOVES Chewie and I'm not sure if I'd take her. At the very least I'd prep her.)
That's all I've got for now.
Speculation:
-Luke is Yoda, not Obi Wan.
-Rey and Kylo Ren are siblings and the kids of Han and Leia.
-Finn is a misdirection. Notice the constant images of him wielding the lightsaber? I think Rey is the Jedi. Not saying Finn can't be, but this is Rey's story.
-This really feels like a remake of A New Hope. I pray it isn't.
-Han dies.
-Chewie might die too. I hope not. (If someone sees this before me, please let me know this spoiler because I have a daughter who LOVES Chewie and I'm not sure if I'd take her. At the very least I'd prep her.)
That's all I've got for now.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Theory:
Kylo Ren is Greedo's long-lost son dedicated to hunting down the asshole that preemptively shot his dad and the rest of his murdering friends.
Also, what it's like to deal with someone who's insane.
Kylo Ren is Greedo's long-lost son dedicated to hunting down the asshole that preemptively shot his dad and the rest of his murdering friends.
Also, what it's like to deal with someone who's insane.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Lucas won't shut the fuck up. Now he's explaining why Han shot first. Notice how he's trying to retcon it to say Han shot first all along, we just couldn't tell? They point out in the article that nobody but Lucas says the original script had Greedo shooting first.
As someone else on the FB points out: "So Indy can shot the swordsman without cause, but Han can't shoot Greedo who has a gun in Han's face and is telling him he's collecting a bounty on him?"
Another point: The hero of your movie can murder hundreds of thousands of people with a single shot from his X-Wing and that's ok, but Han can't shoot a bounty hunter before the bounty hunter shoots him? I mean, there HAD to be families on that Death Star.
To reaffirm that Lucas is full of shit, I dug up this article about his first script.
Han shot first.
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As someone else on the FB points out: "So Indy can shot the swordsman without cause, but Han can't shoot Greedo who has a gun in Han's face and is telling him he's collecting a bounty on him?"
Another point: The hero of your movie can murder hundreds of thousands of people with a single shot from his X-Wing and that's ok, but Han can't shoot a bounty hunter before the bounty hunter shoots him? I mean, there HAD to be families on that Death Star.
To reaffirm that Lucas is full of shit, I dug up this article about his first script.
Han shot first.
Edited By Leisher on 1448984110
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell