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Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:11 am**

SO... what are we in for? Feel free to make predictions, as well.

If he follows through with what he said about coal plants, our home energy costs are going to skyrocket.

If he makes Rev Wright his official spiritual advisor, it's going to be a bad time in America for whitey.

If he lets his wife make any decisions, white people will be enslaved for a year as a learning experience.

Ok, maybe not that last one.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:15 am**

I predict federal money is going to go to "bailout" newspapers. So many of them were in the tank for Obama, now it is payback time.

"We can not let newspapers, that great american institution, go under."

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:34 am**

But I wanted to vote Jimmy Carter and assinated in office.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:37 am**

unkbill wrote:But I wanted to vote Jimmy Carter and assinated in office.

Historically, presidents assassinated in office get their previously-opposed pet projects passed by congress as a "sign of respect," or some such thing. Lincoln and Kennedy, anyway. Wasn't there a 3rd president assassinated? No coffee yet this morning. Garfield?

So....... in a way I'd like to see him do his 4 years, and as long as things don't get... really bad.... just let him be so bad that he ensures a CONSERVATIVE federal government for the 20 years after that. Not necessarily republican.

Things can go either way, or neither. I honestly hopes he is a great President, but my expectations on the least-vetted president in modern history are low.

Oh, also, when does the government start paying my mortgage? I heard that was a perk.

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Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:55 am**

The problem for Barrack and the Democrats is that this past election was a one time thing. People turned out to vote who don't normally turn out to vote. This wasn't anti-Bush, this was a vote about the economy and a unique candidate with a campaign built mainly on hype. The additional turnout obviously helped the Democrats in other races too.

Now the Dems have to live up to expectations or they know they're going to lose the next election.

The same amount of people are going to turn out for the Republican candidate. However, the same cannot be said for Barrack. He's going to lose some votes simply because everyone who turned out for him this time will not do so again.
-Some folks who only voted this time won't be interested in turning out for a "non-historic" election.
-Some honkeys will be over their "white guilt" vote.
-Some folks will be unconcerned due to him being the incumbant and simply won't bother.
-More importantly though, he stands to lose more votes based on job performance than the Republicans.

But this is a conversation for 3 years from now...

For his first term, I voted mediocre. It's too early to truly tell what is going to occur and we won't get a true sense of it anytime soon thanks to a ridiculously biased media.

The only thing I fear out of an Obama presidency is potential socialist policies being enacted and his nominations to SCOTUS. Everything else will handle itself.

Focusing on the positives I will now tell any black person talking about racism to shut the fuck up as they've proven themselves to be the most racist people in this country. I also think this is a good thing for the U.S.'s general image both home and abroad. Let's face it, Bush was not a popular guy anywhere and the Republicans needed some time out of the spotlight to let his memory fade from their party.

So the only big predictions I can make are the same ones I've been making:
-Crime will increase under president Obama.
-The MSM will be less negative about the economy.

P.S. The man is a U.S. President so I obviously do not want to see any sort of attempt on his life. On top of that, no attempts would be another gigantic "shut up" to those folks who think black people in our society are oppressed. For years every comedian in the country has joked about the first black president being assassinated. That gunshot never coming would be one seriously loud statement.

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Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:08 am**

Please reign in spending.
Please reign in spending.
Please reign in spending.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:47 am**

Now I have to wonder, can we ever again have a WASP male President? Or will the next nominees have to be hispanic, or a woman, or jewish, or gay (Not that there's anything wrong with that), or whatever else, in order to compete in getting out voters excited for the historical signifigance?

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:13 am**

TPRJones wrote:Now I have to wonder, can we ever again have a WASP male President? Or will the next nominees have to be hispanic, or a woman, or jewish, or gay (Not that there's anything wrong with that) (Not that there's anything wrong with that), or whatever else, in order to compete in getting out voters excited for the historical signifigance?

That occurred to me a couple months ago.... if a black candidate is the only thing that can unify the black community, how can any party ever again run a non-black candidate?

Black = win if the other guy is white.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:23 am**

There will be some plans that are discovered and some groups of nutjobs will be caught planning some sort of attack on Obama. The same for any president but more will be made of it because of his race. I don't think anything will happen to him though.

I think he will be looked at positively after his first term because the press with be sucking his dick and telling us how the economy is coming back. I bet there are all sorts of positive takes on the economy from the press in Feb. 2009.

Now I have to wonder, can we ever again have a WASP male President? Or will the next nominees have to be hispanic, or a woman, or jewish, or gay (Not that there's anything wrong with that) (Not that there's anything wrong with that), or whatever else, in order to compete in getting out voters excited for the historical signifigance?

Well like her or not but I think Sarah Palin is going to be around for awhile. She won't run against him in any way in 2012 but the hardcore conservatives/republicans love her. There was also a lot of talk about Bobby Jindal moving up the ranks and he is Indian(dot not feathers) and was a VP consideration.

I don't think you will see a lot of it though because it will be portrayed at pandering by Republicans and blacks are the only group that are married to one party.

Another positive from this is that I believe this is the end of Hillary as anything more then an overhyped senator.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:26 am**

Black = win if the other guy is white.

I don't think that will be the case anymore. I think a large number of blacks will turn out to vote for Obama in 2012 to keep the first black president successful but after that they will get lazy like everyone else and the 2nd black president won't be quite the rallying point.

Although isn't Obama already the 2nd black president?

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Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:28 am**

WSGrundy wrote:Well like her or not but I think Sarah Palin is going to be around for awhile. She won't run against him in any way in 2012 but the hardcore conservatives/republicans love her.

I don't know... she might start looking old and unattractive in 4 years. That makes me respect her less, of course.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:40 am**

Leisher wrote:P.S. The man is a U.S. President so I obviously do not want to see any sort of attempt on his life. On top of that, no attempts would be another gigantic "shut up" to those folks who think black people in our society are oppressed. For years every comedian in the country has joked about the first black president being assassinated. That gunshot never coming would be one seriously loud statement.

Well let me clarify my statement. I in no way would condone an attempt on his life. I was just being realistic. I am sure there are racist asshole that are just out of thier minds over his election.
I also found it interesting that out of 22,577 votes cast in my county 397 were for 3rd partys. With Ralph N. getting the most with 193.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:09 am**

unkbill wrote:I also found it interesting that out of 22,577 votes cast in my county 397 were for 3rd partys. With Ralph N. getting the most with 193.

Why do Libertarians get no love?

Just lack of press? I would think there would be a large number of people who would go for the "Do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone else and pay as little taxes while doing it." slogan.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:11 am**

Governor and Senator candidates in NC got 3% (Libertarians)

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:27 am**

Not a lack of love, just sometimes a need to put your vote to something other than a lost cause.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:30 am**

WSGrundy wrote:Why do Libertarians get no love?

Ottawa County
Libertaians 98
Constitution 56
Green 27
Socialist 9
Joe Schriner(?) 1

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:09 pm**

The USS Clueless rises from its grave, momentarily.

http://chizumatic.mee.nu/not_the_end_of_the_world

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:32 pm**

GORDON wrote:Not a lack of love, just sometimes a need to put your vote to something other than a lost cause.

I agree and do the same myself. I just don't understand why it is still at the lost cause stage.

You would think there would be enough people out there that there would be seats in the house and senate at the state and federal level.

I can only assume that people are scared that if they go libertarian that their vote won't really mean anything and then someone they really dislike could get elected.

I would just like to know how you get beyond that sticking point.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:52 pm**

I'm not sure. There is no rational arguement that will convince them, because it is a totally irrational stance held mostly by irrational people. You need to find a purely emotional reason to shift them to being willing to go 3rd party.

Posted: **Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:36 pm**

A 3rd party person would have to run as rep/dem just to get elected. Then, once in office, do the 3rd party thing their whole term. Then, spin it as being all rep/dem stuff the whole time to get relected.

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