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Postby GORDON » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:36 am

Spoiler thread!

Liked: Stark's death scene. Well written. "We're safe, you can rest.". Yes.

Did not like: Frikkin OP Captain Marvel. Her character really needs to be nerfed.
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Postby GORDON » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:37 am

They never really addressed why Stark and thanos were "cursed with knowledge" regarding each other. I was hoping it was some 5th dimensional chess on Strange's part. But no payoff, there.
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Postby GORDON » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:38 am

I kind of dig how they let his failure completely sink in, before they dusted Thanos.
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Postby TheCatt » Fri May 03, 2019 2:28 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post Liked: Stark's death scene. Well written. "We're safe, you can rest.". Yes.

Did not like: Frikkin OP Captain Marvel. Her character really needs to be nerfed.

Agree completely.

Overall, I really liked the first Avengers movie more.

Also, glad I Saw it so I can finally remove this thread from my unread list.
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Postby thibodeaux » Fri May 03, 2019 6:44 pm

Enjoyed the jokes with Thor (Fortnite) and the Hulk (dabbing). I mostly liked the first 2/3 of the movie even though there was some literally gay shit (the Real Captain America would have kicked a gay out of his support group). I really do not care for the obligatory Giant CGI Battles at the end of every movie. The Girl Power Moment was especially eye-rolling.

Kind of glad it's over. Not a bad run, Marvel.

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Postby TheCatt » Fri May 03, 2019 7:29 pm

thibodeaux wrote:Source of the post The Girl Power Moment was especially eye-rolling.

I felt my wife's eyes roll from the next seat.
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Postby GORDON » Fri May 03, 2019 7:30 pm

It pulled my immersion out of the movie.
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Postby TheCatt » Fri May 03, 2019 7:38 pm

The thing that bothered me was the 5 years. I didn't feel like it hit hard enough, and then it was all back too easy in the end. High-five friend!
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Postby GORDON » Fri May 03, 2019 7:42 pm

Imagine all the people who were snapped back.... half of all people on airplanes, now plummeting to the earth. Half all of people driving, now rolling 70mph on the interstates.... getting run over by current drivers.

Not enough food for a suddenly doubled population on grocery store shelves... and not enough grocery stores left.

Worse, for peeps in africa without a quickly adaptable economy.

China just got 500,000,000 new mouths to feed. Fucked.

5 years is long enough for the civilization to adjust, and then not be able to instantly support everyone.
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Postby TheCatt » Fri May 03, 2019 7:46 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post 5 years is long enough for the civilization to adjust, and then not be able to instantly support everyone.

Yes, all of this.

I dunno, I guess it could all be explained away with "The infinity stones are powerful enough to fix it all!" but still
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Postby Leisher » Sat May 04, 2019 12:27 am

thibodeaux wrote:Source of the post Kind of glad it's over. Not a bad run, Marvel.


They're not done yet. The next wave will begin soon. Including a Black Widow movie, which will have to be a flashback, alternate universe, or somehow she gets saved. I mean, she said it was permanent, but Gamora came back.

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post The thing that bothered me was the 5 years. I didn't feel like it hit hard enough, and then it was all back too easy in the end. High-five friend!


The Thor bit was hilarious.

However, I felt the plan was the biggest failure of the movie. They basically caused a lot of heartbreak/problems to save one person. They, literally, put the needs of the one before the needs of the many. That was very un-Marvel-like. It 100% fit Tony Stark's character, but not Cap's. Let's say Gordon's thoughts are correct. How many people died to keep one little girl alive who Tony and Pepper could have simply made again?

So now the question becomes, is it really the end of this story or does it start to become clear that they fucked up and they need to fix it again?

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Overall, I really liked the first Avengers movie more.


I did too, but that had the advantage of never happening previously. I also liked Infinity War more. However, like I said, this felt like Kill Bill 2. IW was Kill Bill 1, all style and combat. This was more about resolution and feels. It was a perfect bookend, but this was not the best of the series.

thibodeaux wrote:Source of the post I really do not care for the obligatory Giant CGI Battles at the end of every movie. The Girl Power Moment was especially eye-rolling.


Loved the ones in IW, but this one was particularly bad. It looked "dirty" and confused. I couldn't keep track of anything going on. And yes, the girl power thing was really stupid as a viewer. Equality doesn't mean being highlighted where others are not. However, in terms of business, it was smart. Girls want to be invested in the product as well.

GORDON wrote:Source of the post Did not like: Frikkin OP Captain Marvel. Her character really needs to be nerfed.


One thing Marvel always does with their OP characters is have them become corrupt and then a hero has to kill them. That may end up being the story line in the next phase. Remember, the original plan for Avengers is that the Hulk would become the bad guy. (And the possibility that World Breaker Hulk or Maestro show up is still in play.)

I found it really hard to get into Captain Marvel. I know what's she's like in real life, and it makes me tune out when she turns up. I'm glad they had Thanos eliminate her quite easily late in the fight.

Seeing it again Sunday with my nephew. I look forward to being able to focus on more stuff the second time around.
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Postby TheCatt » Sat May 04, 2019 7:22 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post but Gamora came back.

Past Gamora is in future world. That's why she's not in love with Quill.

Leisher wrote:Source of the post is it really the end of this story or does it start to become clear that they fucked up and they need to fix it again?

God I hope not. That's just a messy messy drama there.

Leisher wrote:Source of the post I did too, but that had the advantage of never happening previously. I also liked Infinity War more.

Yes, both of those were better than this.
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Postby thibodeaux » Sat May 04, 2019 9:07 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post
thibodeaux wrote:Source of the post Kind of glad it's over. Not a bad run, Marvel.


They're not done yet. The next wave will begin soon.


Nope, it's over. No more Marvel movies. So sad. Also Stan Lee is dead, so how can they have a Marvel Movie without a cameo?

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Postby Leisher » Sat May 04, 2019 9:55 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Past Gamora is in future world. That's why she's not in love with Quill.


That's right.

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post God I hope not. That's just a messy messy drama there.


I kind of hope they do because the more I think about it, the less I liked the resolution to the Thanos story..

thibodeaux wrote:Source of the post Nope, it's over. No more Marvel movies. So sad.


Ha! Could you imagine a world where a movie makes $1.5B opening weekend and then they never make more?
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Postby thibodeaux » Sat May 04, 2019 10:27 pm

I for welcome our new Stronk Wymyn of Color MCU

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Postby Leisher » Mon May 06, 2019 9:34 am

Check the Spider-Man: Far From Home thread.

How the hell did I forget about the multiverse? They don't need to course correct again, they can simply grab Iron Man, Captain America, etc. from another reality if needed.
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Postby TheCatt » Mon May 06, 2019 9:46 am

Leisher wrote:Source of the post How the hell did I forget about the multiverse?

The thing I hate about the multiverse is that it means things don't really have consequences... again.
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Postby Leisher » Mon May 06, 2019 12:05 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post
Leisher wrote:Source of the post How the hell did I forget about the multiverse?

The thing I hate about the multiverse is that it means things don't really have consequences... again.


As I understand it, your life only doesn't have consequences if you live in a microverse or a teenyverse...
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Postby TheCatt » Mon May 06, 2019 1:50 pm

I totally missed Howard the Duck being in the final fight scene.

I did catch the two Community actors.
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Postby Leisher » Mon May 06, 2019 3:11 pm

I didn't notice any of that.

Why didn't Cap want to tell Sam about the girl?

Also, how many Skrulls do you think there are in the Marvel Universe?
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