Leisher wrote:
Far more than a chunk. Go look at the box office numbers. TLJ had the largest 2nd weekend drop in SW history. It bombed in China. Solo bombed. TLJ DVDs and Blu-Rays aren't selling. Retailers are taking it in the shorts on merchandise.
I didn't mean to imply it wasn't a sizable chunk. I was trying to get some numbers, but haven't had a lot of luck finding an estimate of how many fans are really upset or at least unhappy. In light of that, I can only estimate it based on the Rotten Tomato audience score. It was at 49% when I looked at it. So roughly half were not happy. That's why I believe there's no saving it. If roughly half were happy (or at least okay) with it and you tell them you wasted their time and money with the last movie, they aren't going to be too happy going forward if they dream hole the last movie. You lose 40-60% of your audience and your hosed.
But I don't think it'll matter. I don't think they'll be introspective enough to solve the problem.
Edit: They should destroy it properly by letting Tim Burton direct the last one.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Vince wrote: Edit: They should destroy it properly by letting Tim Burton direct the last one.
I laughed, and then I remember their new notice that they'll only be hiring known directors from now on and realized this might happen.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
You fucking assholes...if Burton gets the nod to direct or Depp plays Thrawn...
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
Vince wrote: Edit: They should destroy it properly by letting Tim Burton direct the last one.
I laughed, and then I remember their new notice that they'll only be hiring known directors from now on and realized this might happen.
Disney is letting him destroy Dumbo.
It's going to do well and that's going to open doors for him. I just hope they give him a SW film over a Marvel film.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
Been doing a deep dive into the SW issues of late. So they've put on hold the A Star Wars Story films, but Rian Johnson's trilogy is still a go. It's just a lower priority now than Ep9. JJ Abrams was Exec Producer for Ep8. So while he wasn't on the set for filming, he approved the script. He's stated he will not be addressing any issues raised by fans in Ep9. Now a lot of that may be PR spin, but I think even saying that is the wrong approach. Disney/Lucas keeps saying they are going to address marketing and production to fix the issues they've had with Ep8 and Solo.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Vince wrote: He's stated he will not be addressing any issues raised by fans in Ep9.
He has indeed said that publicly, but that was way back when TLJ first came out. Since then he's been silent. So there is some hope that even if he won't do anything to fix things, Iger is forcing fixes.
Vince wrote: JJ Abrams was Exec Producer for Ep8. So while he wasn't on the set for filming, he approved the script.
I don't know where to find this, but JJ was NOT thrilled with the changes Rian Johnson made and indicated as such after TLJ. His statement was that he actually challenged Rian's dropping of all the plot threads he left dangling. He wasn't pleased that all the stuff he did on Ep7 was essentially thrown out.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
Leisher wrote:
I don't know where to find this, but JJ was NOT thrilled with the changes Rian Johnson made and indicated as such after TLJ. His statement was that he actually challenged Rian's dropping of all the plot threads he left dangling. He wasn't pleased that all the stuff he did on Ep7 was essentially thrown out.
I'm sure he wasn't. Not sure why he agreed to try to salvage the turd that this trilogy has become. I probably would have been telling them I was out after I saw those changes. I'm thinking he's a none confrontation kind of guy. I also think that Kennedy chick was driving a lot of this and backing Johnson's crap. Even Mark Hamill appeared to have been pushing back. I have great differences with the actor, but I actually felt sorry for him in one of those fan talks where he was sitting next to Johnson talking about it. Pretty clear it's really bothered him.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
I responded with a wall of text blasting the author and their logic.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”