Star Wars: Ep VIII - probably a rip-off of Ep V

Post by **Vince** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:30 pm

thibodeaux wrote: They should make George Lucas do cameos in all the movies. Including CG ret-conned cameos for the original films.

Heheh... have him in place of the fat X-wing pilot in the original.

Post by **GORDON** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:40 pm

George Lucas lost whatever spark of brilliance he may have had in the years after Jedi, and he literally made a joke of the franchise with the prequels. Disney was very smart to keep him away with a 10 foot pole, even if the stuff they are making now has a different tone.

Post by **Vince** » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:45 am

GORDON wrote: George Lucas lost whatever spark of brilliance he may have had in the years after Jedi, and he literally made a joke of the franchise with the prequels. Disney was very smart to keep him away with a 10 foot pole, even if the stuff they are making now has a different tone.

To me, he still had the same strengths and weaknesses throughout the series. He was brilliant at creating immersive and living worlds. He could craft a good plot. He could never direct for shit. He was just fortunate that among the actors he hired there were a number that were just incapable of a bad performance anywhere (Ford, Guiness, Cushing, McGregor, Neeson). Many of the others I've seen give solid performances in other roles, but just really sucked in the Star Wars movies. That was where Lucas was always really weak. He couldn't recognize performances that just looked bad.

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:40 am

Disney is playing hard ball with theaters.

Post by **TheCatt** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

I need context for what is normal.

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:09 pm

I had read somewhere previously that the studio got 100% of the profits from the first week of a movie's release, and then the percentage dropped weekly from there, while the theater's would climb the longer the film played.

So this asking for a strict percentage for a film's entire run is new information for me.

Post by **GORDON** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:58 pm

Leisher wrote: Disney is playing hard ball with theaters.

Some theaters telling Disney to GFY/

https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-last- ... ntroversy/

Post by **Leisher** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:43 pm

Good.

Post by **Vince** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:38 am

Leisher wrote: Good.

Yes. I'd like to see a lot of theaters refuse to run it while they're pushing this BS. It really wouldn't take a whole lot for it to impact the opening weekend numbers. And Disney is more about image than anything else. They start getting press about a drop in opening weekend numbers compared to earlier releases, then they'll get control of themselves.

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:47 am

Big spoiler making unavoidable headline news this morning.

I'm actually amazed the studio has allowed this person to discuss their character in this way.

This was a VERY talked about subject leading up to the film, but perhaps this is in response to the very negative tone of that speculation?

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:59 am

I'd been avoiding it until your link.

Post by **Vince** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:24 am

Disney getting rather fascistic

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:07 am

I'd have to see the pieces that have angered Disney before deciding whose side I'm on here.

If good reporting was done that put Disney in a bad light, shame on them for not fixing the issue and instead taking this tact.

If shody reporting was done that put Disney in a bad light, shame on the reporters and shame on their brethren for not calling them on it.

Post by **Vince** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:13 am

What I'm seeing on Twitter is that Disney demanded a retraction of the story, but isn't denying the reporting isn't true.

This seems to be one of the articles. Pretty much the same arguments that are made against the sports franchises. Tons of tax breaks being given to a business that's making money hand over fist. This is really a stupid way for Disney to handle this. They could go the PR route and give numbers on how much is brought into the city in tourist dollars. This is just a stupid way to handle this.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:15 am

In that case, I would not be on Disney's side.

Although, I think there are some interesting observations that could be made about all these corporations that preach left wing stuff involving bigger government, yet who don't want to pay taxes in a very right wing way.

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:05 pm

Vince wrote: What I'm seeing on Twitter is that Disney demanded a retraction of the story, but isn't denying the reporting isn't true.

This seems to be one of the articles. Pretty much the same arguments that are made against the sports franchises. Tons of tax breaks being given to a business that's making money hand over fist. This is really a stupid way for Disney to handle this. They could go the PR route and give numbers on how much is brought into the city in tourist dollars. This is just a stupid way to handle this.

Disney backs down

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:10 pm

Honestly, between Disney and the media with a grudge, who do you support?

Post by **Vince** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:18 am

GORDON wrote: Honestly, between Disney and the media with a grudge, who do you support?

Local media usually isn't as bad as national. Usually. There are always exceptions.

At first when I saw the comments about the stories, I thought this was like the big sports franchises that take advantage of local tax payers to pay for their venues. But then I figured it was different because Disney owns their park. Then I saw the story and it's about the city building a huge parking structure that will be pretty much for Disney and realized it's exactly like the sports franchises screwing the locals.

I'm fine with tax breaks for these businesses and organizations, because it's not the government's money to start with. But taking from the local working stiffs to support them is where I have a problem.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:35 am

DIsney giving customers a better experience with parking = more customers = more tax to the local government.

Disney is looking to maximize profits, the media tells lies and does its best to fool you. I'm siding with Disney. All profit media is scum.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:05 am

The most minor of spoilers and I cannot stress enough MINOR.

There will be a scene with Boyega in an elevator with four Stormtroopers. Those troopers are Prince William, Prince Harry, Gary Barlow, and Tom Hardy.