When that top kept spinning at the end, I'm of the school of thought that the mission he ran was genuine, he just never got out of it.
I'd still like to point out this film could've been a million times cooler the more I think about it. Some of the rules for dreamworld are immensely awesome. Others seem like a complete fucking waste.
Inception - SPOILERS
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thibodeaux wrote:I thought that they just ended the film before we could figure out if it was going to stop or not, letting each viewer decide his own ending.
Granted I've only seen that ending once, but I remember that top spinning for a bit. The impression I got was that it's not stopping. I don't even remember it wobbling much.
G's theory would go towards explaining why Leo figured Ellen Page would come back even after a shitty first experience in dreamworld.
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It did, it had a lot of wobble just before the camera cut. Odds are it was just about to fall, but you could stretch it and make a case that it wasn't going to.Malcolm wrote:Granted I've only seen that ending once, but I remember that top spinning for a bit. The impression I got was that it's not stopping. I don't even remember it wobbling much.
The thing is it doesn't really matter. The job was done. If Leo was still in limbo at that point and living a lie, at least it was a lie that would keep him sane and once he did wake up from it all he'd end up in a world that would be just the same, where he'd get off the plane in LA and go see his kids.
I wonder about the others, back in the first level of dream. They were supposed to have a whole week in there, and the van crash was after only a day or two at most. Did they spend the rest of the week wondering around aimlessly? If they were all doped up they couldn't just wake up. But then if they all don't wake up until the timer goes off, why is the machine already put away? The ending was a little messy on some points there. But nothing that can't be reasoned away, I guess. Still, I think that's why it felt like the ending was rushed.
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Agree with everything TPR said. The spinning top doesn't matter. What matters is that he thinks he's in reality, and finally back with his kid, which he's wanted the entire time.TPRJones wrote:It did, it had a lot of wobble just before the camera cut. Odds are it was just about to fall, but you could stretch it and make a case that it wasn't going to.
The thing is it doesn't really matter. The job was done. If Leo was still in limbo at that point and living a lie, at least it was a lie that would keep him sane and once he did wake up from it all he'd end up in a world that would be just the same, where he'd get off the plane in LA and go see his kids.
I wonder about the others, back in the first level of dream. They were supposed to have a whole week in there, and the van crash was after only a day or two at most. Did they spend the rest of the week wondering around aimlessly? If they were all doped up they couldn't just wake up. But then if they all don't wake up until the timer goes off, why is the machine already put away? The ending was a little messy on some points there. But nothing that can't be reasoned away, I guess. Still, I think that's why it felt like the ending was rushed.
So, while I don't think he's in the dream any more, I also don't think it matters if he was in a dream or not. For all we know, the whole thing was a dream. It's irrelevant.
Also agree on the ending messiness, but still.. entertaining flick all in all, but I don't see what the big "confusion" about it was.
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During the film, I had the same thought that Gordo did. I expected the film to end with his wife saving him from the dreams.
At the end with the top, TPR is right, as it was slowing down and wobbling very violently right before the camera cuts away. Knowing Nolan's style, I think that was his nod to folks who appreciate subtlety. That was the end, no twists.
However, it could easily be left to interpretation for each viewer. Was he still in a dream? Was he not? Whichever ending you wanted, you could talk yourself into it.
I also agree with Catt. I thought it was pretty straightforward. No reason for confusion.
At the end with the top, TPR is right, as it was slowing down and wobbling very violently right before the camera cuts away. Knowing Nolan's style, I think that was his nod to folks who appreciate subtlety. That was the end, no twists.
However, it could easily be left to interpretation for each viewer. Was he still in a dream? Was he not? Whichever ending you wanted, you could talk yourself into it.
I also agree with Catt. I thought it was pretty straightforward. No reason for confusion.
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So in the final scheme they are in a dream level with a hotel. The van on the higher dream level is in freefall, so there is no gravity in the hotel and Joseph Gordon Levitt has to rig a "drop" in an environment with no gravity.
He stacks the dreamers like cordwood, ties them together, and floats them to the elevator. Then he goes up into the elevator shaft and it looks like he disables the automatic brake, then uses one elevator as a counterweight to pull the other elevator really fast and simulate gravity for a freefall/drop/awakening.
But this can't be what happened, because the entire point of having no gravity is that the elevator counterweight wasn't going to fall in the first place BECAUSE THERE'S NO GRAVITY.
So is that just a major flaw, or did I miss something?
He stacks the dreamers like cordwood, ties them together, and floats them to the elevator. Then he goes up into the elevator shaft and it looks like he disables the automatic brake, then uses one elevator as a counterweight to pull the other elevator really fast and simulate gravity for a freefall/drop/awakening.
But this can't be what happened, because the entire point of having no gravity is that the elevator counterweight wasn't going to fall in the first place BECAUSE THERE'S NO GRAVITY.
So is that just a major flaw, or did I miss something?
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Inception - SPOILERS
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”