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Free to play.

"With some twists", whatever the hell that means. I'm thinking it translate to: "We're stealing Riot's business model."
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With the massive popularity of Riot/LOL, what are the chances this game will fizzle for lack of interest?
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According to one independent study, DOTA2 has surpassed LoL as the world's most popular game.

Ok, probably not, as the writer immediately points out. Still, this is a big deal.

It makes one wonder when EA is going to announce their MOBA game...
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I've heard the situation described as,"DOTA2 is more strategic, but LOL is more fun."
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Yeah, I've heard the learning curve in DOTA 2 is a bit ridiculous.

Plus, they've been in beta for well over a year now. They've always said the game will cost money once they get out of beta, which I think might be dumb, unless they simply plan to give you all content out of the gate.

The thing that irritates me about DOTA 2 the most is that it's being worked on constantly, but we're still waiting for HL2:Ep3.
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The fact that DOTA has been in beta forever shows that its not up to par with LOL yet. It looks interesting and i would like to try it out but get it out of beta already!

There are also a couple of other MOBA's out there. Hero's of Newearth is one, i read that one sucks though.

Another one thats in beta is called Smite, its in 3rd person view and actually looks kinda cool. I've watched a few streams of this game before and it shows promise, but it literally only has like 10 champs right now so its prolly got a while before that one comes live.

And X-box actally got a MOBA a few months ago. Guardians of Middle Earth, i got a little excited when i saw this just cause it was Lord of the Rings. But its on X-box, and i guess that you don't even buy items in the game and each champ just goes along a set path as they go up levels, leaving any sorta build strategies outta the question. Basically its a dumbed down MOBA for begginers.

I would love to see an X-men style one though, i think Leisher had mentioned one in a post somewhere. There is just sooo many champs that they could make outta that.




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The fact that DOTA has been in beta forever shows that its not up to par with LOL yet. It looks interesting and i would like to try it out but get it out of beta already!


I think they've actually painted themselves into a corner.

I'm not sure what the actual plan might be, but I can't imagine an open beta for 2 years was in it. Who knows though? Maybe they're waiting for some of the bloom to fall off of LoL's rose?

There are also a couple of other MOBA's out there. Hero's of Newearth is one, i read that one sucks though.


There are quite a few out there, but none with the numbers close to LoL or even DOTA2.

I've heard that in at least one, the turrets walk around or some shit.

Another one thats in beta is called Smite, its in 3rd person view and actually looks kinda cool. I've watched a few streams of this game before and it shows promise, but it literally only has like 10 champs right now so its prolly got a while before that one comes live.


When they go into 3rd person, I think that's when I'll walk away. That view just doesn't work for this type of game. It turns it into a shooter instead of a tactical game.

I always felt the same way about MMOs. 3rd person is great for FPSs, and some MMOs, but the best don't have that view. It also sucks for sports games, and LoL is technically a sports game... (think about it)

I would love to see an X-men style one though, i think Leisher had mentioned one in a post somewhere. There is just sooo many champs that they could make outta that.


Yeah, rumor has it that DC/WB is working on one, and a Marvel one would be a no brainer.

For the Marvel one:
-I can name three villains off the top of my head who give Marvel a pre-conceived story line to explain the game's back story: Arcade, Mojo, and the Beyonder.
-The dragon can be Fing Fang Foom.
-Baron can be Galactus.
-Jungles spawns can be various Hydra, SHIELD, AIM, etc. members.
-When you teleport Gateway or Lockjaw show up to take you.
-Minions can just be murderbots or some shit.
-Wolverine's ult would be "Berserker rage"
-The Human Torch's would be "Nova"

Holy shit, TONS of ideas are flooding my brain right now. I could talk about this concept all day.
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"Beta" status doesn't mean too much... isn't gmail still in beta?
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More on how that report is bullshit.
“Riot is actually going to give us some actual numbers so we can compare,” Cole continued. “LOL does have a lot more users and we may have underestimated LOL. Thing is, we have never seen anything like it, so have been pretty conservative. But Dota 2 is still big.”


So they're going by hours played, and they don't even have legit numbers from LoL. Sounds quite scientific...

For example, as the article notes, Riot has peak concurrent highs of 500,000 users on EU West servers alone. DOTA2 reports a high of 300,000 and change for all servers. So yeah, obviously DOTA2 is the bigger game? How the fuck did they reach their conclusions?
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Sounds like DOTA2 isn't even in the same league as... League.
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Finally leaving beta this summer.

Since everyone on the planet who wanted access to play it could easily get it, I'm not sure what will be different.
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Not up to LoL yet, but it's getting bigger.
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Leisher wrote:Not up to LoL yet, but it's getting bigger.
They managed to fill a theater with all the people who'd been banned by the LOL Tribunal?
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Gordo and I were once discussing how it seems PCGamer is in Valve's pocket because they ALWAYS talk about DOTA2, and not LoL (the biggest game in the world).

DOTA2 gets its own column in PC Gamer.

Personally, I wish DOTA2 would have failed because we'd probably have seen a new HL game by now.
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As someone who still plays LOL, I find that bias irritating.
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If you missed it, video games took a huge step into the mainstream over the weekend.

Valve's DOTA 2 "The International" tournament is currently being held, and not only did it get a front page story on ESPN.com, but it was also being aired on ESPN 3.

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ESPN 3? I vaguely remember that ESPN 2 was where they showed twenty-year-old hockey games. I can only presume ESPN 3 is usually most International Badminton Playoffs.

Hardly mainstream, that.
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You're thinking of ESPN Classic, which does still exist.

Actually ESPN 3 is their online channel, and I believe was previously ESPNU?

The mainstream part was being front page news on espn.com for the entire day yesterday. That is a big deal. They weren't just a headline on the side of the page, but one of the top 5 stories.
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Should have been on The Ocho.
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