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The X-Box One isn't even able to get to 1080p, how the hell is it 4K compatible?
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Leisher wrote:The X-Box One isn't even able to get to 1080p, how the hell is it 4K compatible?
Yeah, TFA said games that were supposed to be 1080P couldn't quite get there on the hardware.
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Leisher wrote:The X-Box One isn't even able to get to 1080p, how the hell is it 4K compatible?
I guess 4k compatible versus 4k-capable. Like it can produce 4k images, but it just can't do games at 4k.
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Follow up on the 4K article.

Still doesn't mention the dominance of PCs or how all consoles are obsolete from day 1 by design.
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Too bad gaming has spread to the masses. True gamers have been deemed obsolete, due to the introduction of console gaming. Any douche fuck can afford to purchase an Xbox or Playstation, and boast their "achievements" in Call of Duty to the rest of the drones involved with said trend.

TRUE gamers, take the time and effort to build their machines, part by part. Most understand the inner workings of their rigs, and often take pride in the hard work they put into their masterpiece. You won't see a console gamer raving the power of their newly installed Nvidia 980 Maxwell GPU. . . . . Not a true gamer in my opinion. . . .

Build your own rig, love and understand what it does. Then you can come to me and tell me your system is better than mine. Until then, console gaming will forever be, the poor mans excuse for a gaming machine. Get lost, noobs. ;D
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PC gamers aren't obsolete, they are just being ignored by the media in the pockets of the colsole makers who are spending billions trying to make fetch happen.

We all just sit in the stands and watch the circus and laugh while playing better games.
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True gamers have been deemed obsolete, due to the introduction of console gaming. Any douche fuck can afford to purchase an Xbox or Playstation, and boast their "achievements" in Call of Duty to the rest of the drones involved with said trend.

TRUE gamers, take the time and effort to build their machines, part by part. Most understand the inner workings of their rigs, and often take pride in the hard work they put into their masterpiece. You won't see a console gamer raving the power of their newly installed Nvidia 980 Maxwell GPU. . . . . Not a true gamer in my opinion. . . .

Build your own rig, love and understand what it does.


Nonsense. That's elitist douchebaggery.

You're telling me that a guy who plays PC games maybe 2 hours a night on a custom built PC is more of a gamer than someone that plays Call of Duty 12 hours a day on a PS4?

Listen, we all know that consoles are PCs with fewer features. We know that console players are getting ripped off because they're paying more, getting less, and using a shitty controller. However, their ignorance of the PC gaming universe doesn't reduce their love of gaming.

Some folks don't have the technical knowledge to use PCs. Some don't have the money. Some are too lazy. Most simply have never thought about it.

We might drive by them in our Lamborghini, but that doesn't make their Ford Focus any less of a car.

If you want to help them you can't start by mocking them and calling them stupid. Teach them about the PC. Sing its praises. Explain to them how much cheaper games are on the PC and the glorious Steam sales. Tell them how mods work. Explain to them WASD and the mouse.

PC Gaming is light years ahead of console gaming, and that's indisputable. However, I wouldn't say hardcore console players are not "true gamers" just because they play on consoles.

In fact sir, you state:
True gamers have been deemed obsolete, due to the introduction of console gaming.


At what point in time did your "true gamers" exist? Because the first console was released in 1972. The 80s were dominated by the Atari 2600 and Intellivision, while the C64 was barely a PC. Collecovision came along soon after.

During the early 90s, Nintendo and Sega were masters of the gaming world.

And why do people need to build their own PC to be a true gamer? That's like saying someone has to be a doctor to be a true human. I mean, by your logic, a guy who spends $500 building a custom PC to play Roller Coaster Tycoon is more of a gamer than someone that drops $7K on a maxed and speced out Falcon Northwest so he can max out the graphics in everything he plays.
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Leisher wrote:You're telling me that a guy who plays PC games maybe 2 hours a night on a custom built PC is more of a gamer than someone that plays Call of Duty 12 hours a day on a PS4?

Yes, I would agree with that.

These days console gamers are all bros and jocks. I don't want them to come to PC gaming, because I prefer PC gaming not to be turned into a drunken frat party. My grandma who only plays Yahoo solitare on her PC is more of a gamer than some PS4 CoD doucheknuckle. IMO.

Oh, Nintendo is excepted from this. It's not a console, it's more of a digital toy for young children.




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Completely disagree.

Consoles are the minor leagues. It's where people can cut their teeth on gaming.

Are there douchebags in console gaming? Of course!

Are there douchebags in PC gaming? Three words for you: League. Of. Legends.
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Not everybody out there knows or even cares to know how to even begin to build a PC. Just in Leisher and I's group of friends we are the only two that would even remotely know how to build a PC.

I've got 2 kids at home ages 8 & 11, do you think they are gonna build their own PC? NO! I'm willing to bet about 80% of those kids between the grades of 3-8 have a console. And i don't blame them! They have a box they can put a cd in and it plays games! Millions of parents don't know any better themselves. They just buy the cd for the kids and its all good. They don't have to worry about where they have to download the files to and create shortcuts, update drivers, wait in long ass que's just to play a game!

So i know we all think and are better than them lowly console gamers. But there is a reason why they exist, to make it easy for the average joe and kid out there to have access too. Hell, they don't know the insides of that box are anything less than our PC's, just that they work when they want them too.
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Not everybody out there knows or even cares to know how to even begin to build a PC. Just in Leisher and I's group of friends we are the only two that would even remotely know how to build a PC.

Building a PC is a notch or two above changing a tire and setting a DVR to record a few shows.
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Malcolm wrote:Building a PC is a notch or two above changing a tire and setting a DVR to record a few shows.
Yeah, for you and I. But not for the average joe or kid.
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TPRJones wrote:
Leisher wrote:You're telling me that a guy who plays PC games maybe 2 hours a night on a custom built PC is more of a gamer than someone that plays Call of Duty 12 hours a day on a PS4?
Yes, I would agree with that.

These days console gamers are all bros and jocks. I don't want them to come to PC gaming, because I prefer PC gaming not to be turned into a drunken frat party. My grandma who only plays Yahoo solitare on her PC is more of a gamer than some PS4 CoD doucheknuckle. IMO.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Any asshole I've ever met in RL (Jocks are a perfect example), rep their COD status daily. When you attempt to bring up the PC platform to them, all you'll get to hear is how the mouse and keyboard is retarded, and controllers are way better. . . . . DERP. Stay away from PC gaming, don't taint my perfect world with your douchery is what I say!

No doubt PC gamers are just as douchey, but at least I can take solace in knowing they're being douchey from Mom and Dad's basement, downloading massive loads of Japanese anime tentical porn. . . . The console gamer douche is probably sitting around a group of even bigger douchers, talking about how amazing they are and which girl they porked and never called last night. . .
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Stranger wrote:
Malcolm wrote:Building a PC is a notch or two above changing a tire and setting a DVR to record a few shows.
Yeah, for you and I. But not for the average joe or kid.
The mechanical ability required isn't that much. Maybe changing oil is a better example. If you're literate and not afraid to fuck up and spend some time, you can build a PC from independent parts.
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When you attempt to bring up the PC platform to them, all you'll get to hear is how the mouse and keyboard is retarded, and controllers are way better. . . . . DERP


Easiest argument in history to destroy.

1. On a PC, you can use a controller if you'd like.
2. Controllers are so inaccurate that console games have auto aim cheats written into the code.
2. Keyboard and Mouse players have thoroughly DOMINATED controller using console gamers in every single game that has allowed such match ups.

Those are not opinions. Those are facts. Google them.

No doubt PC gamers are just as douchey, but at least I can take solace in knowing they're being douchey from Mom and Dad's basement, downloading massive loads of Japanese anime tentical porn. . . . The console gamer douche is probably sitting around a group of even bigger douchers, talking about how amazing they are and which girl they porked and never called last night. . .


What? You're upset about console players actually getting laid while you jerk it to tentacle porn? You lost me on this one. Sounds like you should see a professional to discuss these issues.

The mechanical ability required isn't that much. Maybe changing oil is a better example. If you're literate and not afraid to fuck up and spend some time, you can build a PC from independent parts.


That's just stupid.

Working on a PC is daunting for some people, let alone designing and then building one. Pretending that it's as simple as an oil change is more elitist douchebaggery.

Is it easy? Yes. However, since I'm not a sociopath I can see where a lot of folks would never believe they could do it themselves.

You're acting like that parent who throws their kid into the deep end without giving him/her lessons while screaming "sink or swim".

Consoles are plug and play and have the perception of being affordable.

PCs have the perception of being difficult and expensive. A perception that isn't helped by elitist douchebaggery. (That's my favorite word today.)




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Bahahahahahah, I LOVE TENTICAL PRON.

But seriously, I wasn't referring to myself at any point there. "I" can laugh, knowing"They're" in Mom and Dad's basement jerking it to tentical porn. . . . Whew, needed to be sure that was clarified heheheh.

Is it easy? Yes. However, since I'm not a sociopath I can see where a lot of folks would never believe they could do it themselves.


Do-able? Yes. Easy? No. I would agree though, that most people wouldn't think they could do it themselves. Just like I don't think I could do certain repairs to my Car/Truck, I'm sure I could, I just don't have the knowledge that a mechanic would have so it would be very challenging.
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Pretending that it's as simple as an oil change is more elitist douchebaggery.

I disagree here. It is approximately as easy as an oil change. Perhaps a bit easier since you don't have to crawl under the chassis or find a lift to build a computer. The fact that more people are afraid of it than are afraid of oil changes doesn't mean it's more difficult.

Some people are afraid of computers and find the idea of building one daunting. Some other people are afraid of cars and find the idea of changing the oil daunting. In another few decades there won't be more of the former around than of the latter. Computers are just newer.




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You're acting like that parent who throws their kid into the deep end without giving him/her lessons while screaming "sink or swim".

I fail to see how not building a PC is equivalent to drowning.

PCs have the perception of being difficult and expensive.

Perception != actual effort.
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TPRJones wrote:
Pretending that it's as simple as an oil change is more elitist douchebaggery.
I disagree here. It is approximately as easy as an oil change. Perhaps a bit easier since you don't have to crawl under the chassis or find a lift to build a computer. The fact that more people are afraid of it than are afraid of oil changes doesn't mean it's more difficult.

Some people are afraid of computers and find the idea of building one daunting. Some other people are afraid of cars and find the idea of changing the oil daunting. In another few decades there won't be more of the former around than of the latter. Computers are just newer.
No. The oil change is a terrible analogy. Unscrewing a plug, letting a fluid drain, screwing the plug back on, and then filling the reservoir is not the same as understanding that you can build a PC, teaching yourself the requirements, researching parts, earning the money to buy them, going through the shipping process, assembling the PC while taking the proper precautions for static and heat, installing the proper software, configuring both before and after the OS, and finally benchmarking it.

Not even remotely the same thing. That's like saying jerking off in the shower is the same thing as being in a 10 year long love triangle.

It's elitist. Stop looking through your prism, and look through a layman's.

Also, computers have been around a long time, and the vast, vast majority of people still don't know shit about them. That includes most people I know that are younger than us. Cars have been around a lot longer than PCs and most people can't do that aforementioned oil change on their own.

I fail


Finally, we agree on one statement you've made. :D

My analogy is about your attitude. Yes, it is easy to build a PC, but for most people it isn't and yes, their perception counts as an obstacle. If we want the hobby to grow, it's better to help ease people into it than put up a "just fucking do it yourself or you're a moron" wall of elitism.

Perception != actual effort.


What?
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