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TheCatt wrote:I disagree.
Your perrogative.
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mbilderback wrote:
TheCatt wrote:I disagree.

Your perrogative.
I do not believe Kerry would hesitate at all. Why do you believe he would?
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TheCatt wrote:
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TheCatt wrote:I disagree.

Your perrogative.

I do not believe Kerry would hesitate at all. Why do you believe he would?
Hasn't he already claimed he would check what the rest of the world thought, first? I'm pretty sure you know the two words I'm thinking of. He said it right-chair on national tv. ("Right-chair" is how we ig'nant ohioans tawk)

If the UN is known for anything, it's expediency.
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GORDON wrote:
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Your perrogative.

I do not believe Kerry would hesitate at all. Why do you believe he would?

Hasn't he already claimed he would check what the rest of the world thought, first? I'm pretty sure you know the two words I'm thinking of. He said it right-chair on national tv. ("Right-chair" is how we ig'nant ohioans tawk)

If the UN is known for anything, it's expediency.
No, actually, he didn't.

But Bush, Rice, Rove and Cheney all say he did, so it must be true.
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Ok, I didn't hear "Global Test" on television. I've been hypnotized by goddam Halliburton.



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Well, the words "Global Test" doesn't mention the UN. It could mean anything, really.
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Post by TheCatt »

Here's the full quote.
No president, through all of American history, has ever ceded -- and nor would I -- the right to preempt in any way necessary, to protect the United States of America. But if and when you do it, Jim, you've got to do it in a way that passes the, the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people, understand fully why you're doing what you're doing, and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.

Seriously, you sometimes behave as though you only listen to Bush/his advisors, and have blinders on to the rest of the world.
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He's trying to straddle a fence. "I don't need permission...BUT I have to pass a test first."



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TheCatt wrote:Here's the full quote.
No president, through all of American history, has ever ceded -- and nor would I -- the right to preempt in any way necessary, to protect the United States of America. But if and when you do it, Jim, you've got to do it in a way that passes the, the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people, understand fully why you're doing what you're doing, and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.

Seriously, you sometimes behave as though you only listen to Bush/his advisors, and have blinders on to the rest of the world.
That may be true, but for the last week or so it seems you've been deparately trying to hold on to something (with Kerry) that just isn't there.

I post story after story showing what a dirtbag he is... I've been doing this for over a year now... and they just keep bouncing off. He's Anybody But Bush.

Kerry is not a leader.

But, not everyone wants that quality in a President, and that's fine. Seriously.
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I'd prefer a less asinine leader.

I prefer balanced budgets.

I prefer a leader that's more intelligent than Bush. I don't think Bush is dumb/retarded, but I know I'm a helluva lot smarter than he is.

Cheney scares me. And little children.

I want Ashcroft gone.

I want better environmental policies.

Bush won't get me those things.
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TheCatt wrote:I prefer a leader that's more intelligent than Bush.
Ooops.
the most infuriating revelation yet from the military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W. Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.
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No oops.
They are not formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make reasonable extrapolations.


Still way lower than my IQ, those dumb-asses.




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I like the follow-up article better.
The commercial made its national debut on Thursday on the Fox News Channel, aimed directly at Mr. Bush's Republican base. It starts with a middle-aged man disgustedly dropping his Wall Street Journal on the kitchen table. "What kind of conservative runs half-trillion-a-year deficits? Gets us into an unwinnable war?" he asks his wife, but adds helplessly, "I can't vote for Kerry."

"Then don't," she says, cheerily suggesting an alternative who is not quite yet a household name: Michael Badnarik, a computer consultant from Austin, Tex.
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At least the man is using actual data, instead of going with his prejudices. You said you want a leader that's smarter than Bush. Odds are, you ain't gonna get it this year.

Probably aren't gonna get your pony, either.
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Eh, IQ is only 1 facet of intelligence, Kerry is still smarter.
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Of course he is. he started working for the presidency in vietnam.
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GORDON wrote:Of course he is. he started working for the presidency in vietnam.
That's better than W never working for it, right?
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Not really.
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GORDON wrote:Not really.
You're right, we should just give things to people who don't deserve them.
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Post by GORDON »

How does his being a whore for 30 years - doing what he calculates will make him electable rather than what he thinks is right - in an attempt to gain the White House mean he deserves anything?

This is just a difference of opinion. I don't want a president that spent... what... 60% of his life? trying to become president. You think that makes him a better person. I don't. We're both wrong, and both right.
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