The College Thread

[TPRJones]

Are lesbians incapable of rape? Someone should tell the producers of Orphan Black.

[GORDON]

College campuses have their own rules. All white males are the enemy, period.

[Vince]

Cut the funds. Starve the beast (any bureaucracy) of funds and it'll reboot to something a little more manageable. Pretty much what both TPR and Gordo are both saying.

I think if we started at the top (federal level), there would be a lot of trickle down effect with that.

[GORDON]

Chick makes "I was gang raped at a frat" claim years after the fact. There is zero evidence. Rolling Stone ran the story, naming the college and the frat, and never bothered to contact the accused men. "Jezebel" claims anyone who questions the veracity of the story is an idiot.

http://thefederalist.com/2014....e-story

I have heard that it isn't right to question a woman who is alleging she was sexually assaulted. But, in the off chance that she is lying and has mental issues, does it do a person with mental issues any favors to pretend that they don't have mental issues? If her story is true, is hurting her feelings by asking her if she has any evidence any worse than the sexual assault?

[Vince]

The answer to this is to sue the shit out of Rolling Stone for defamation. They'll either start asking questions or stop running these stories entirely.

[Vince]

Heh... Rolling Stone had to issue an apology for that story. Still hope they're sued out of existence.

[TheCatt]

OOOOOOPPPSS

A female friend of mine posted the original story, and I really wanted to post something about making sure the story was true, since it was basically one person's account with no corroborating stories/evidence, and saying something like "If true, this is horrible." But I didn't want to get blasted for putting any doubt on a "victim."



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[TheCatt]

By Rolling Stone | December 5, 2014
To Our Readers:

Last month, Rolling Stone published a story titled "A Rape on Campus" by Sabrina Rubin Erdely, which described a brutal gang rape of a woman named Jackie at a University of Virginia fraternity house; the university's failure to respond to this alleged assault – and the school's troubling history of indifference to many other instances of alleged sexual assaults. The story generated worldwide headlines and much soul-searching at UVA. University president Teresa Sullivan promised a full investigation and also to examine the way the school responds to sexual assault allegations.

Because of the sensitive nature of Jackie's story, we decided to honor her request not to contact the man she claimed orchestrated the attack on her nor any of the men she claimed participated in the attack for fear of retaliation against her. In the months Erdely spent reporting the story, Jackie neither said nor did anything that made Erdely, or Rolling Stone's editors and fact-checkers, question Jackie's credibility. Her friends and rape activists on campus strongly supported Jackie's account. She had spoken of the assault in campus forums. We reached out to both the local branch and the national leadership of the fraternity where Jackie said she was attacked. They responded that they couldn't confirm or deny her story but had concerns about the evidence.

In the face of new information, there now appear to be discrepancies in Jackie's account, and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her was misplaced. We were trying to be sensitive to the unfair shame and humiliation many women feel after a sexual assault and now regret the decision to not contact the alleged assaulters to get their account. We are taking this seriously and apologize to anyone who was affected by the story.

Will Dana
Managing Editor



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[Vince]

Sorry Rolling Stone... you don't get to blame your lack of journalistic integrity on a young woman that obviously has mental issues. YOU chose to buy her story without doing any investigation because you are either monumentally lazy or you just really, really wanted it to be true. Either way, this is YOUR pooched story.

[GORDON]

Sorry Rolling Stone... you don't get to blame your lack of journalistic integrity on a young woman that obviously has mental issues. YOU chose to buy her story without doing any investigation because you are either monumentally lazy or you just really, really wanted it to be true. Either way, this is YOUR pooched story.

Not sure who you are saying has the mental issues, the woman who wrote the story, or the woman who made the claims. Seems like both, to me.

[Malcolm]

Reminds me back of the great Satanist scare from about thirty years back. Fuck proof, we have repressed memories to prove that shit happened.

[Vince]

Sorry Rolling Stone... you don't get to blame your lack of journalistic integrity on a young woman that obviously has mental issues. YOU chose to buy her story without doing any investigation because you are either monumentally lazy or you just really, really wanted it to be true. Either way, this is YOUR pooched story.

Not sure who you are saying has the mental issues, the woman who wrote the story, or the woman who made the claims. Seems like both, to me.

The woman that told the story. She's been telling it for a while now and it keeps changing. The one that wrote it just wanted it to be true and wanted to pretend to be a journalist, I guess. I cut the woman that told the story some slack because I really think she has real issues.

[GORDON]

The chick who wrote the story was fishing for exactly that. She wanted to expose MALE RAPE CULTURE in the frats, whether it existed or not. She has issues, too. When she couldn't find real evidence, she made shit up. As far as I am concerned she should be charged with something.



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[TheCatt]

Or the Duke lacrosse/"rape" case.

Or Tawana Brawley

[Vince]

The chick who wrote the story was fishing for exactly that. She wanted to expose MALE RAPE CULTURE in the frats, whether it existed or not. She has issues, too. When she couldn't find real evidence, she made shit up. As far as I am concerned she should be charged with something.

I'm not giving anyone at Rolling Stone the out of a mental defect. They placed activism above journalism. I think the student is trying to be part of the "in" women's issues crows and to bond with them. The way some people go to support groups for parents that have lost children even though they never had any. The student probably falls into that sort of mental illness. Not the entire staff at R/S. Remember, this had to be greenlighted by at least one editor.

[Malcolm]

You know what an editor is?

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An English major that flunked writing and had to fall back on proofreading.

[GORDON]

I'm not giving anyone at Rolling Stone the out of a mental defect.

The psycho bitch reporter has done this before.

http://www.bigtrial.net/2014....by.html

[Malcolm]

Not a hoax.

Here’s why that claim is so problematic: Calling something a hoax implies there was a specific intention to deceive, often maliciously. It implies that every piece of Jackie’s account is false, that she is a girl who set out to entrap and defame men by creating a fantastical (and brutal) story, that she had some hidden agenda and something tangible to gain from recounting this violent tale to a Rolling Stone reporter. There is no question that Rolling Stone’s editorial staff and reporter have some serious explaining to do. They did not do their due diligence on this piece, and in that failure, let down both Jackie and their readers in a major way. But discrepancies in a graphic and extremely-detailed story -- even enough discrepancies to discredit the story in a court of public opinion and journalism -- do not a “hoax” make.

[GORDON]

Not a hoax.

Here’s why that claim is so problematic: Calling something a hoax implies there was a specific intention to deceive, often maliciously. It implies that every piece of Jackie’s account is false, that she is a girl who set out to entrap and defame men by creating a fantastical (and brutal) story, that she had some hidden agenda and something tangible to gain from recounting this violent tale to a Rolling Stone reporter. There is no question that Rolling Stone’s editorial staff and reporter have some serious explaining to do. They did not do their due diligence on this piece, and in that failure, let down both Jackie and their readers in a major way. But discrepancies in a graphic and extremely-detailed story -- even enough discrepancies to discredit the story in a court of public opinion and journalism -- do not a “hoax” make.

Many on UVA’s campus and outside of it have been understandably upset for a number of reasons -- at Rolling Stone’s lack of fact-checking, at the way the discrepancies in this one story might set back on-campus dialogue about rape or perpetuate the myth that lots of women report rape falsely...

One time is too many, and I don't think it is as rare as they think. Fuck everybody who thinks it's a "myth."

[TheCatt]

I can't remember where we stick the liberal student crap these days.

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