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I hope we discover thousand year old seawall technology before that three inch rise.
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GORDON wrote: I hope we discover thousand year old seawall technology before that three inch rise.
You didn't even read it, did you?
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Nope. I'm still reeling from being taught we were heading for an imminent ice age in the 1980s. I've been too upset to process new information ever since.
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I went ahead and clicked on it. In spite of seeing that child mouthpiece's video at the top, I went ahead and looked through it.
Because of the growing contributions from Antarctic melting, the authors say sea level rise is now likely to exceed three feet by 2100 if carbon emissions continue to increase.
Perhaps most concerning is what may be happening to the Antarctic ice sheet, which has the potential to raise sea levels much higher.
The scientists warn that more study is needed, but say changes observed in parts of Antarctica could be the first signs the ice sheet has reached a point of no return.
"If this is true, then there is a chance of a multi-meter sea level rise within the next two to three centuries," said Regine Hock, a professor at the University of Alaska Fairbanks and a coordinating lead author on chapter two of this IPCC report. "That is very substantial."
Even if collapse of the Antarctic ice sheet is not imminent, the report says that many of the 680 million people around the world living in low-lying coastal areas will experience annual flooding events by 2050 that used to occur only once a century.
If there was any more uncertainty, persuasion, and lack of facts in this article it could be filed under fantasy. It says absolutely nothing.
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TheCatt wrote: Sea levels may rise faster than expected by 2100. But Vince will be dead by then, so fuck those people.
Jesus will be back before then. Not a problem.
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GORDON wrote: If there was any more uncertainty, persuasion, and lack of facts in this article it could be filed under fantasy. It says absolutely nothing.
I'm firmly in the "we are not doing the planet any favors" camp, but being fair, Gordon has a point here about the wording in that article.
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GORDON wrote: If there was any more uncertainty, persuasion, and lack of facts in this article it could be filed under fantasy. It says absolutely nothing.
Not only that, go to the factsheet for the report and it seems to be a little lacking in any actual data they used or where to find it.
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Of course I assumed it was a 3 inch rise expected by 2100. That's what every worst-case scenario has predicted, until this awesome article of hard fact that says 3 feet.
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Coke to market Dasani in aluminum cans/bottles.

Hopefully they have a bunch of Krogers in the third world countries so their poor can recycle all these cans...
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I wonder what that's going to do to the taste of the water.
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GORDON wrote: I wonder what that's going to do to the taste of the water.
Wine has the same issue. They've been working on various things to protect the flavor.
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Beer made me think of that, heh. My beer tastes VERY different when drunk from glass, aluminum, or plastic.

IIRC a lot of cans are lined with glass?
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Leisher wrote: I'm firmly in the "we are not doing the planet any favors" camp, but being fair, Gordon has a point here about the wording in that article.
People... be better stewards of the planet.

Politicians... stop using environmental issues in an attempt to backdoor global socialism. Socialist states don't have a good environmental record.

Scientists... make your data, data collection methods, and testing methods available to scrutiny from all other scientists. Otherwise you've left the field of science and you're simply and activists now.
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GORDON wrote: IIRC a lot of cans are lined with glass?
If that's a thing, I am unaware of it. I thought they used polymers/plastics/etc
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TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote: IIRC a lot of cans are lined with glass?
If that's a thing, I am unaware of it. I thought they used polymers/plastics/etc
Yeah, I can't think of a way to do that that isn't... at least unhealthy if not outright dangerous.
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Funny if they replace plastic with plastic-lined aluminum.

But, if aluminum ends up being the major plastic replacement, look for aluminum recycling to become much more profitable.
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Vince wrote:
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GORDON wrote: IIRC a lot of cans are lined with glass?
If that's a thing, I am unaware of it. I thought they used polymers/plastics/etc
Yeah, I can't think of a way to do that that isn't... at least unhealthy if not outright dangerous.
I assume that's why other people are food scientists, and not us?
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Well, just look up "flexible glass" (which is what it would have to be) and... I don't think that's a thing now. At least not in drinking cans.
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Vince wrote: Well, just look up "flexible glass" (which is what it would have to be) and... I don't think that's a thing now. At least not in drinking cans.
Oh, wasn't sure if you were responding to me or Gordon, or both.
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GORDON wrote: I went ahead and clicked on it. In spite of seeing that child mouthpiece's video at the top, I went ahead and looked through it.
Because of the growing contributions from Antarctic melting, the authors say sea level rise is now likely to exceed three feet by 2100 if carbon emissions continue to increase.
Perhaps most concerning is what may be happening to the Antarctic ice sheet, which has the potential to raise sea levels much higher.
The scientists warn that more study is needed, but say changes observed in parts of Antarctica could be the first signs the ice sheet has reached a point of no return.
"If this is true, then there is a chance of a multi-meter sea level rise within the next two to three centuries," said Regine Hock, a professor at the University of Alaska Fairbanks and a coordinating lead author on chapter two of this IPCC report. "That is very substantial."
Even if collapse of the Antarctic ice sheet is not imminent, the report says that many of the 680 million people around the world living in low-lying coastal areas will experience annual flooding events by 2050 that used to occur only once a century.
If there was any more uncertainty, persuasion, and lack of facts in this article it could be filed under fantasy. It says absolutely nothing.
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