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Vince wrote: How are there any businesses left in that state?

Leisher wrote:

Vince wrote: How are there any businesses left in that state?

I assume because high members of the ownerships groups/boards don't want to move and aren't affected personally by the "tax the fuck out of people and corporations" laws.

TheCatt wrote: Street poop increasing in San Francisco

A Republican governor, Pete Wilson, who served from 1991-1999, issued a warning during his term that the flood of illegal immigrants into the state was going to create huge problems. He spearheaded Proposition 187, which would have prevented illegal aliens from using social services. It passed a popular vote in the state, but was predictably declared unconstitutional by a federal court and his successor, Democrat Gray Davis, refused to appeal….

he constitutionality of Proposition 187 was challenged by several lawsuits. On November 11, 1994, three days after the bill's passage, Federal Judge W. Matthew Byrne issued a temporary restraining order against institution of the measure, which was filed by State Attorney General Dan Lungren.[27] After Judge Mariana Pfaelzer issued a permanent injunction of Proposition 187 in December 1994, blocking all provisions except those dealing with higher education and false documents, multiple cases were consolidated and brought before the federal court. In November 1997, Pfaelzer found the law to be unconstitutional on the basis that it infringed on the federal government's exclusive jurisdiction over matters relating to immigration.[28] Pfaelzer also explained that Proposition 187's effect on the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, the Congressional overhaul of the American welfare system, proved that the bill was a "scheme" to regulate immigration:

"California is powerless to enact its own legislative scheme to regulate immigration. It is likewise powerless to enact its own legislative scheme to regulate alien access to public benefits."[29]

Governor Wilson appealed the ruling, which brought the case to the federal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. But in 1999, the newly elected Democratic Governor Gray Davis had the case brought before mediation.[30] His administration withdrew the appeal before the courts in July 1999, effectively killing the law.[31]

California repealed the unenforceable sections of Proposition 187 in 2014.[32] In September 2014, California passed a bill, SB 396, that removes those sections from California's education, health and safety, and welfare codes, as a symbolic act after the repeal of Prop.187. Bill author Kevin de León said this "closes a dark chapter in our state’s history, and brings dignity and respect to the national immigration debate."[33]

TheCatt wrote: a dark chapter in our state’s history, and brings dignity and respect to the national immigration debate.

Leisher wrote: The fact that state is in such good shape both culturally and financially really proves how right these people are about

TheCatt wrote: a dark chapter in our state’s history, and brings dignity and respect to the national immigration debate.

Now if California had a homeless problem, water shortages, corporations leaving in droves due to overreaching tax laws, insane property taxes and prices, millions of illegals living off of the state, and were on the brink of bankruptcy almost non-stop, then maybe the other side of this issue would be right, but that's just not the case is it?

We found out on Tuesday that although the city and county spent $600 million last year to chip away at the number of homeless people, the total increased by 16% to nearly 60,000.