Luck matters more than talent for being rich

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:22 pm

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:01 pm

Yeah, I buy that.

How many people are in Hollywood, not because of talent, but because they were lucky enough to be born with connections?

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:07 pm

Leisher wrote: Yeah, I buy that.

How many people are in Hollywood, not because of talent, but because they were lucky enough to be born with connections?

And the people who ended up in car wrecks or with illness that kept them from being successful, on the other side. As luck goes, I'm almost certainly on the "pretty lucky" side of things.

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:09 pm

TheCatt wrote: As luck goes, I'm almost certainly on the "pretty lucky" side of things.

Ditto.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:35 pm

Leisher wrote: Yeah, I buy that.

How many people are in Hollywood, not because of talent, but because they were lucky enough to be born with connections?

Or they were willing to blow.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:47 pm

GORDON wrote: Or they were willinglucky enough to blow.

FTFY

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:50 pm

I would agree that random chance certainly has a seat at the table, but you have to admit that there's a shitload of conscious, bad decisions that get called "bad luck."

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:39 pm

GORDON wrote: I would agree that random chance certainly has a seat at the table, but you have to admit that there's a shitload of conscious, bad decisions that get called "bad luck."

I've made a ton of bad decisions without many bad repercussions

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Getting teen pregnant isn't bad luck. Not putting in a little effort in free public school isn't bad luck. Getting caught robbing the liquor store and having a criminal record keeping you from getting a meaningful job isn't bad luck. But, all of these things are usually ascribed to "bad luck."

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:48 pm

GORDON wrote: Getting teen pregnant isn't bad luck

Really? Cuz that always felt like rolling the dice.

The other examples, are clearly not luck.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:08 pm

Outside of rape, one can choose to not teen fuck. Everyone knows the consequences, and if you can't deal with the possible outcome, then it's a bad decision.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:22 pm

GORDON wrote: Outside of rape, one can choose to not teen fuck. Everyone knows the consequences, and if you can't deal with the possible outcome, then it's a bad decision.

I'm not going to agree with you on this one. People are hardwired to fuck, teen or otherwise.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:24 pm

Then they can do it before they're responsible and ready and ruin their lives with all that bad luck.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:41 pm

Leisher wrote: Yeah, I buy that.

How many people are in Hollywood, not because of talent, but because they were lucky enough to be born with connections?

Post by **Vince** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:14 am

I would suspect that they conflating "luck" with outside the box thinking. Take the very top successful people... they more often than not didn't even finish college. If following the teachers' instructions were the key to success, then everyone with a degree would be successful. Don't get me wrong, it's useful for those unable to think outside the box.

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:17 am

Vince wrote: I would suspect that they conflating "luck" with outside the box thinking. Take the very top successful people... they more often than not didn't even finish college. If following the teachers' instructions were the key to success, then everyone with a degree would be successful. Don't get me wrong, it's useful for those unable to think outside the box.

It's a mathematical model, not a study on reality and outcomes.

But yes, doing well in school only goes so far on life. I've always looked at it as something that opens doors. I think people put too much stock into education, other than showing that people can focus on boring things

Post by **Vince** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:20 am

TheCatt wrote: It's a mathematical model, not a study on reality and outcomes.

But yes, doing well in school only goes so far on life. I've always looked at it as something that opens doors. I think people put too much stock into education, other than showing that people can focus on boring things

Yeah, I think when it came to distilling down the model they had to come up with something other than "talent" and settled on "luck".

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:33 am

"But having a bad brain is bad luck."

Luck is the residue of preparedness.

Post by **TheCatt** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 am

GORDON wrote: "But having a bad brain is bad luck."

Luck is the residue of preparedness.

So if my plane crashed, and everyone n It died, how should I have been more prepared?

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:48 am

I don't know, why did the plane crash?