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Scoop up the crazies.
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GORDON wrote: Scoop up the crazies.
SSSSHHHH!!!

If the Thought Police see you talking like that they'll ostracize you!

The wife and I were discussing this issue today. This idiot, the crazy on the plane, and the school shooter in Texas who was singing songs while shooting his classmates are all proof that we're broken. We have, as a society, crippled our ability to deal with these people by dismantling our mental health system. It's damn near impossible to have someone committed anymore.

My wife just saw a piece on a mom whose son has been displaying violent tendencies and insanity. She can't get him help until she creates a paper trail. Thus, she has to constantly file police reports. Meanwhile, she's getting beaten, he's always in trouble, etc.
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Maybe mandatory therapy for.everyone. at worst, you're just talking to a friendly ear twice a month.
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More on the guy who drove his car into the restaurant:
But in recent months, Self had been wrestling with mental illness, Austin Rammell, a pastor at Venture Church, told WSOC. A family friend for 16 years, he told the station that Self was beset by anxiety, depression and mental breakdowns. Sometimes he would go days without leaving his bed, Rammell said.

“He’s been taking precautions. He had all the guns removed from his house, so he was making steps that were rational steps.”
The mental health system in this country failed him and his family.
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Hell, lately half these people had already been reported to the FBI as dangerous.

Everyone is failing, everywhere.

Taking the guns will fix it though.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
Texas shooting suspect's choice of guns complicates debate over assault rifles

The reality that weapons not included in proposed assault-rifle bans can still exact a double-digit death toll further complicates a wrenching national debate about how to prevent future tragedies.
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Shooting at restaurant in OK ended by armed civilian.

This won't get a ton of press from some outlets because:
1. It doesn't fit the "assault rifles" narrative.
2. An armed civilian saved the day.
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I went looking for stats the other day, about how many crimes are ENDED by civilians with guns.

Conservative sites say it happens all the time, and is way under-reported on purpose.
Liberal sites claimed it rarely happens and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

SO I didn't really find any good numbers, in a brief search.
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CNN has nothing on the restaurant incident. Shocking.

Another school shooting. Indiana.

Sounds very small, three people injured (one a broken ankle), and few details out. Suspect arrested was a student.
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Knife violence is skyrocketing in the UK.

What’s the solution?

Ban sharp knives and ones with points.
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Just wait until criminals resort to bashing people in the head with chunks of concrete. Sidewalks will be illegal.
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Leisher wrote: Knife violence is skyrocketing in the UK.

What’s the solution?

Ban sharp knives and ones with points.
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3D gun plans are blocked from being downloaded for now.

Thing is, they're already out there.
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Leisher wrote: 3D gun plans are blocked from being downloaded for now.

Thing is, they're already out there.
This is going to get shot down. Also, the judge that put this in place should be impeached. It is legal for you to build your own gun at home as long as it is not being sold or you are not a prohibited possessor. This is left wing activism.
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Leisher wrote: 3D gun plans are blocked from being downloaded for now.

Thing is, they're already out there.
My wife: well, they blocked them for now.

Me: As much as you can block something that's already out there.
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Vince wrote:
Leisher wrote: 3D gun plans are blocked from being downloaded for now.

Thing is, they're already out there.
This is going to get shot down. Also, the judge that put this in place should be impeached. It is legal for you to build your own gun at home as long as it is not being sold or you are not a prohibited possessor. This is left wing activism.
Hmmm, seems like he has legal basis of some kind:
In 2013, the US government made Defense Distributed take the blueprints down, saying they would violate International Traffic in Arms Regulations, potentially allowing someone in a country to which the US doesn't sell weapons to download the plans to make their own guns. Wilson sued the federal government in 2015, and the Trump administration settled the case in June.
But Lasnik found the government didn't follow procedure when agreeing to the settlement.
"Plaintiffs have shown a likelihood of success on the merits of their Administrative Procedure Act claim," the judge wrote.
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TheCatt wrote: Hmmm, seems like he has legal basis of some kind:
In 2013, the US government made Defense Distributed take the blueprints down, saying they would violate International Traffic in Arms Regulations, potentially allowing someone in a country to which the US doesn't sell weapons to download the plans to make their own guns. Wilson sued the federal government in 2015, and the Trump administration settled the case in June.
But Lasnik found the government didn't follow procedure when agreeing to the settlement.
"Plaintiffs have shown a likelihood of success on the merits of their Administrative Procedure Act claim," the judge wrote.
My understanding is that you can get plans to every gun manufactured via the patent office. The issue in question is much more akin to that than selling arms to a foreign country. I also don't understand how a judge can reverse a decision on a case that has been settled when neither of the parties of that case have filed anything. If a state's AG wants to sue, then they need to start anew. Otherwise, what use is a court ruling? If anyone can come in not related to your case and get it overturned, what's the point of having a court system?

This is flat out activism on the judges part, and I maintain he should be impeached.
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In the city with the strictest gun control laws, 40 people have been shot and 4 killed in the last 24 hours.
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