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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:51 pm
by GORDON
Their coloring looks weird. Yellowish. I've seen it on more than one person. And I remember some comedian talking about it when that diet was really popular.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:29 pm
by TheCatt
Low glycemic index diets = best for weight maintenance
Eating lots of protein and skimping on refined starch is the best weight maintenance diet, reports a Danish study. Researchers at the University of Copenhagen compared the results of five different weight-maintenance diets on almost 800 European families.
Their conclusion: The most effective is the low-glycemic diet - which means more lean meats, beans, low-fat dairy and less refined starch such as white bread and white rice. The glycemic index measures how carbs break down and changes our blood sugar levels. Foods that spike the blood sugar are assigned higher glycemic index numbers. For example, lima beans, peas, legumes and lentils have glycemic index below 55, while white bread, corn flakes and white rice have GI above 70.
The findings in the New England Journal of Medicine stated that the low-glycemic diet was the easiest to adhere to among the five weight-maintenance diets assigned.
But James O. Hill, director of the Center for Human Nutrition at the University of Colorado, who was not involved in the study told the Los Angeles Times, "There is not much difference among the groups right now,” about the five different diets.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:32 pm
by Alhazad
thibodeaux wrote:I have to say I'm mystified. There's option A: count calories, be hungry all the time, and spend hours exercising. Then there's option B: eat as much as you want of REAL food: fruits, nuts, vegetables, and meat, including bacon and steak, without worrying about calories or exercising.
And y'all would really rather do option A?
Hell no I wouldn't rather do A; but like GORDO I don't want to lay out the money for an all-delicious diet. On top of that I'd worry about getting too much LDL (bad) cholesterol on that regime.
But I'll play. 220 looking for 180; the weight I was at when I rode a bike 3 miles to my physical-labor job five days a week. Ideally I'd like to be a wraith and horrify people with my skinny longhair-ness
... suppose I'll put these chips away.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:40 pm
by thibodeaux
Alhazad wrote:On top of that I'd worry about getting too much LDL (bad) cholesterol on that regime.
You won't. High LDL cholesterol is a symptom of a pro-inflammatory diet containing (HEY CAKEDADDY!) grains and industrial lubricants like vegetable oil. A low-carb, high-protein, high-saturated-fat diet will improve your numbers.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:45 pm
by Alhazad
thibodeaux wrote:Alhazad wrote:On top of that I'd worry about getting too much LDL (bad) cholesterol on that regime.
You won't. High LDL cholesterol is a symptom of a pro-inflammatory diet containing (HEY CAKEDADDY!) grains and industrial lubricants like vegetable oil. A low-carb, high-protein,
high-saturated-fat diet will
improve your numbers.
That's handy. Anything to discredit the claims that cutting out processed/cooked starch is detrimental to brain function? I don't want to be just another pretty face.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:58 pm
by thibodeaux
Alhazad wrote:That's handy. Anything to discredit the claims that cutting out processed/cooked starch is detrimental to brain function? I don't want to be just another pretty face.
THAT'S one I haven't heard. Seems rather dubious. Starch is basically glucose, and of course the brain runs on glucose when it's available. But your body can synthesize glucose from other foods, and also the brain runs just fine on ketone bodies when you're low on glucose.
I'll put it this way: it hasn't seemed to affect MY brain.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 pm
by Alhazad
thibodeaux wrote:THAT'S one I haven't heard. Seems rather dubious. Starch is basically glucose, and of course the brain runs on glucose when it's available. But your body can synthesize glucose from other foods, and also the brain runs just fine on ketone bodies when you're low on glucose.
I'll put it this way: it hasn't seemed to affect MY brain.
Heard it back at my aforementioned job from one of the cooks, who I believe had been told it by her doctor to warn her away from Atkin's. I've also read articles linking evolution of human cranial capacity to the advent of cooking, which unlocked a source of easy starchy calories that you didn't have to chase and beat with a stick, but I don't know if that's related.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:27 pm
by TheCatt
Well, that's up to debate. 
In the short term, it definitely impairs brain function. The theory is that over time (weeks), the body adapts, and the brain gets energy from ketones or pulling glucose from other sources.
Every time I've tried a low carb (<25g/day) diet, I've felt like death. But doing it around 100g has prevented the death-like, semi-retarded mental state the lower levels do.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:36 pm
by GORDON
Alhazad wrote:But I'll play. 220 looking for 180; the weight I was at when I rode a bike 3 miles to my physical-labor job five days a week.
Geez, last time I was 180 I was coming off of chemotherapy. I don't think I could go that low without.... another round of Marine boot camp, maybe, where they feed you 3000 calories a day and burn 5000 a day off of you.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:36 pm
by Alhazad
GORDON wrote:Alhazad wrote:But I'll play. 220 looking for 180; the weight I was at when I rode a bike 3 miles to my physical-labor job five days a week.
Geez, last time I was 180 I was coming off of chemotherapy. I don't think I could go that low without.... another round of Marine boot camp, maybe, where they feed you 3000 calories a day and burn 5000 a day off of you.
Yes sir, but I'm 5'6". I was still pudgy at 180.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:33 pm
by GORDON
Why, you're wee.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:40 pm
by TPRJones
I'm on the Door diet plan.
Do I still fit out of the door? Yes. Then no need for a diet yet.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:49 pm
by Alhazad
Legs feel better after a week or so of biking. Don't get so tired riding between work and home.
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:10 pm
by GORDON
My diet starts Monday; I will do my first official weigh-in when I get up in the morning.
Prepare for Mr. Cranky.
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:27 pm
by TheCatt
I don't know when mine starts... Thanksgiving + my brother's birthday + being sick + new baby = 5 lbs apparently.
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:36 pm
by Alhazad
My <s>diet</s> lifestyle change has started already.
Hey Catt, what do you do for decent snacking fare besides the obvious jerky, nuts, and baby carrots?
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:40 pm
by GORDON
Alhazad wrote:My <s>diet</s> lifestyle change has started already.
Hey Catt, what do you do for decent snacking fare besides the obvious jerky, nuts, and baby carrots?
Walmart has Yoplait yogurts on sale for $.50 each. Not very filling and 120 calories a pop.
100 calorie microwave popcorns.
Diet A&W... 0 calories.
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:41 pm
by Cakedaddy
Is that all you ate all day, or just examples of what you're eating?
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:06 pm
by GORDON
Diet starts Monday.
I went shopping today for some things I'll be eating.
After 10 days or so I'll be ready for Thib's MEAT FRENZY diet.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:34 pm
by TheCatt
Alhazad wrote:My <s>diet</s> lifestyle change has started already.
Hey Catt, what do you do for decent snacking fare besides the obvious jerky, nuts, and baby carrots?
Honestly, I snacked very little when I was sticking to the dietary change. but when I did, yeah, those items.